So You Think You Can Dance?
The American Idol signature was evident, so I actually felt at home even if it was dancing. I did feel uncomfortable watching contestants who were supposedly funny since I can’t dance myself — so who am I to judge? At any rate, Nigel Lythgoe (producer of Idol) did a decent job of being the Simon Cowell of the show, but it is clear that this is just the support show (and rickey.org filler) for the bigger franchise.
Who did I like? Well, all three of them were eliminated early! Hahahahaha. My super-fanhood was short-lived. We’ll try again next week.
Nigel Holt, who had a fantastic head spin (quicktime video) and the ego the size of a bus:
SUPER-CUTIE Chris Corres from ROMEOVILLE, IL (drool, OMG):
And the highlight of the show, Anthony Bryant, who unfortunately had no clue what his self-image was. Yes, honey, masculine you are NOT. But I still love you! I and the rest of your brothers and sympathetic sisters would have rooted for you so hard if you had made it.
Plus points for the I-am-not-afraid-to-show-my-bulge-in-front-of-millions outfit, but really, the rhythmic gymnastics routine (quicktime video) was inspired (even if the judges hated it). Bravo! One of the most entertaining fifteen minutes ever.
We’ll see what happens next week, but off the bat, I think they will pimp the girl who looked like Britney Spears, Cheryl Texiera, and the other blond, all-American girl, Melissa Vella.
Also, the host, Lauren Sanchez, had too much plastic surgery.
P.S. I just read what I wrote again, and I just realized, doh, that Anthony Bryant was eliminated because he "looked" gay. Now I’m very angry. We should write this show some e-mail. OMG, that’s flat out discrimination! The bit was funny because when Anthony was trying to "look" masculine, it obviously wasn’t, so ha-ha — however, he was getting the boot for simply that criteria, and according to Nigel, he was afraid that Anthony would turn off the male voters. What a load of bullshit. So… Nigel is the manipulative bastard behind these shows. I am so ANGRY! I’m starting the negative campaign right now. This is totally unacceptable. Vote for the worst here we come.
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Um... I'm sorry to sound rude but Nigel was right! As a male dancer, I agree that being masculine while dancing is important. And don't get me wrong, I love ballet and jazz and I suck at hip hop so it's not even a stylistic thing.
I think the purpose of his solo tonight was to prove that Nigel, and the other judges, still respected him as the talented dancer he is. He just wasn't competition show material.
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Love that song they play when the couples dance....any idea what it's called? kind of disco house with a cool piano.
First of all, masculine is subjective.
Secondly, the point of the whole rant is how Nigel scolded Anthony for not looking like a man. By bringing up the issue of how Anthony dressed and his solo ribbon dance, it completely removed the issue of whether or not Anthony was leading his partner "like a man". Nigel could have left it at that, but instead he needed to insult Anthony for dramatic effect.
Thirdly, I am not arguing the fact that Anthony looked feminine on some points. And his brother even wrote here that he's not gay, which is doubly terrible because Nigel was this close to calling him a sissy. But then again so what? It shouldn't matter ugh NO. A person with a penis shouldn't be EXPECTED to dance masculine.
i am gay and this is my comment:
no, he didnt get kicked out for looking "gay" or "feminine"
He got kicked out because He DANCED FEMININE. according to the judge, he was dancing with a partner, he is the boy so he's suppose to LEAD and dance in a masculine way. Because he wasnt able to dance masculine, he failed. and thus, was kicked out.
There are gay guys who danced masculine. And they got to stay. So it wasnt about sexual orientation at all.
It was about how they conveyed the dance aura.
Hello everyone... I was just wondering if anyone knows the song that they showed Blake dance to while he was crying. The song seems very inspiring, and I would love your help! Thanks
I had very high hopes for this show. However, the prejudice judges turned me against it quickly.
Anthony was one of the most talented dancers in the competition, but he was elimiated because Nigel thought he was too gay. This is total 100% discrimination! I changed the channel after hearing this and will probably not support the show for the rest of the season. However, I am interested in sending in an email expressing my concerns. Anyone got a link or an email address?
you did absolutely great!!!! Im sorry aout when you came back to dance, I was kinda shy with all those people around!OMG u did a lot better than everyone else and im not just saying that, like the passion u have 4 hip hop is tremendous and it really showed on TV!4get Nigel he's a on crackhead on wheels! love always,
Emmie Rose Scheurer
never leave me at dance no other teacher could replace you
Hey... I just wanted to say that I thought Anthony was very good, feminine or not. I twirl batons also and being good at many different types of dance/gymnastics/twirling is not easy... it takes a lot of discipline. He should have been kept... like others, he brought dance diversity to the show!
That was total bullshit and discrimination when they cut Anthony I mean come on they said that he was one of the best dancers they had seen but yet they cut him because they are scared that people won't watch because he looks more feminine dancing?! whatever we just want to see good dancing on there whatever and however that may be. Besides most male ballet dancers will look more feminine because they are so graceful and stuff so whatever Nigel you are an arrogant son of a bitch prick who discriminates and I hope this show gets the boot.
First off I would like to say thanks everyone for your comments good or bad about my younger brother Anthony Bryant. I have had the priviledge of helping to raise him into a young man. He has been through alot more than any of you will ever know. As far as being gay, he is not. Anthony has been dancing since he was 5 and not only does any dance that you can think of, but he also twirls batons and is skilled in a variety of other gymnastics. Yes he can be feminine. He likes that side of dancing more. As Lynne said, Nigel did what was best for "his" show. In my opinion if the show was really looking for professional dancers, Nigel would not be a judge. Why, because he is the producer and does what he has to to give the american people what they want. I also feel that Nigel be-littled my not so little brother infront of everyone but has obviously affected his and possibly the shows status with the gay community. Unfortunately most of the american people are nonchalant to things like rhythmic gymnastics which is the routine Anthony did with the ribbon.
Anthony believes in the art of dancing not the "image" that Lynne is suggesting. As a matter of fact Anthony held a reccent performance over a month ago called Art Gala 2005 in Statesville, N.C.
As far as Anthony's clothing is concerned. He wears what feels natural so he can do his thing just like everbody else whether it be hip-hop, tap, ballet or whatever.
If this show is to be "So You Think You Can Dance", then I believe they are giving dancing in itself a bad name if a man cannot be feminine when he dances considering ballet has always been a feminine dance. I would be very surprised if any of the dancers on the show are more, as Lynne said "aware", of his/her dancing as Anthony is.
Also with Lynne, I am glad he got cut from the show if this is the kind of show it is going to be. Anthony will move on to better things because obviously he is not a quitter. Even though he did not make the so-called "cut", Anthony is still in fact one of the best dancers that show could have had. So noone can call him a bad dancer until they have seen the missing performance he gave after the ribbon display. Does anyone even know the judges backgrounds?
I would love to chat more about Anthony and what's happening right now for him, thanks to the show, but he will more than likely be in a few magazines, etc considering he has already been contacted along with his dance instructor from N.C. Thank You
anthony was booted because he was a fem.
not because of his dancing.
he would have abused all the britney's
(bad reference as britney spears cant dance thats why she has back up, she is a face, a fat one at that.)
the belly dancer from the 1st act was right.
if you are a rich whitegirl with lots of dance lessons you will totally get in.
anthony was not rich apparently.
he did go to julliard so maybe he was.
so maybe he wasnt white enough? i dunno.
the fighting on the blog is ridiculous.
its a tv show, nigel is now a major tv e.p. and wants ratings.
he is a douchebag, along the lines of karl rove or bob novak (pauley shore or um dr. laura may be a better reference)
so here goes, simon cowell or whatever is a record exec, um they are yes men. nigel feeds him lines, as producers do, simon got a new attitude and some vnecks from international male and he became a hit.
nigel used to be a back up dancer like puffy or j.lo and decided to waste more money on the jibs and um 50 some odd dv shoooters.
dancing is not about the american public, nobody dances anymore except outcasts and some basket ball wives.
so get over the idea that this is about dancing.
this is about selling cars, clothes, coke, sneakers, and american idol cds.
i hate him.
i lost my cool.
i am making a tshirt devoted to anthony and Nigel Lythgoe
F*ck him and his power, and his scandal and whatever else you can attribute to him.
this segment shouldnt have aired, as someone who works in tv this is a vile display of power.
a million little fems, gay or not just lost their scrodums, much like the one anthony showed off on screen that he got flying through julliard like the ribbon on his stick.
he def has art school brain, and can accept criticism. not realizing he wasnt masculine might have been a jitters thing, as all of this was quite crudely made to begin with, i would have been scared, bad production, stressed and underpaid people can make your time on tv not so easy. and they showed that bit in close up over 5 times. being honest his smile was way to sweet for that "american" look, so credit to nigel on being honest on his insecurities and homophobic banter its the american way.
gayboys do go through that every day, it usually ends with something like a beer can being thrown at their heads
whoever the other two mutes behind the table were arent worth an opinion, theyre mules. to fill space.
this show will def be on my tivo so i can gooble obsure blogs and rant again, thanks for your time, let me know if you want the image of my tshirt so that you too can print it on iron paper and spread the word of abject obsure irks.
Anthony is a beautiful dancer. Why is the taste level so narrow ...only macho guys are allowed? What is wrong with being a feminine man? Is there only one style of male dance acceptable? There should be room for many interpretations in dance as in life. Thank you Rickey for telling it like it is. Let's start a "BRING BACK ANTHONY" campaign! We're here, we're Queer...get used to it!
Hey, seems like you're good with computers and all.. I was hoping if you can send me pictures (screen caps) of Chris Corres and Cheryl Texiera... well if you don't mind...
"doesn't give anyone the right to be rude"
Hmmm...do you really think the dance contestants NEVER saw American Idol? Well even if they did not...they should know what they are getting themselves into before they try out for a reality TV show from the same team.
But...I will try again...to talk about the whole show...so they said they are going to be teamed up for parts of the show...does that mean they will all have to do a whole host of genres of dance including ballroon and the likes? They had two hours but they really did not explain the rules too well unless I went for a soda when they did. I hope so...would love to see what some of the break dancers do with a waltz and fox trot, etc.
Oh and just a general...enough with the head spins! Once you have seen it once...kinda loses its ability to impress and then it just makes me want to rub my head! hahaha
Oh I hope that young lady who would not stop crying gets some professional couseling. I liked her tryout dance but obviously she needs to concentrate on some emotional issues now not dancing. But if this is a hit...maybe she will get another shot next time. I mention this mainly because I am wondering though...if she reactly like that so much this time....wasn't she at all like that at the previous tryout? Maybe that was a bit of an evil set-up by the PTB.
Ok, then we should call a truce. Since you don't think it was discriminatory on any level, then we cannot even discuss any of the details since there's no point.
You have to realize that I, along with many others, gay and straight alike, found the remarks offensive. We are not uneducated people, and we agree with all your points that Anthony is indeed feminine (and probably needs to work on his masculine-side, if he wants to explore this, since it is not convincing). But whether or not that is the truth, it doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and take advantage of people.
When Nigel mentioned he wanted the men to be masculine and saw Anthony's reaction, he immediately pounced on him in a very confrontational tone saying "I worried about you young man when you had that ribbon..." Nigel was clearly the instigator, and of course, Anthony had to defend himself. Then the barrage of inappropriate comments about how Anthony looks, etc. How helpless was he really? Who had all the cards anyway? If you think that Anthony deserved to be treated that way then there really is no point in carrying on. We think it was insulting, you AMAZINGLY think it was more than appropriate.
Notice that I am not even defending Anthony. I am angry at Nigel. Your counter-arguements were a little off, it should be "Since Anthony is not an "aware" dancer which is essential to being a good dancer which he is not, didn't dance masculine, danced with a ribbon, and had no idea that this does not constitute masculinity which as WE ALL KNOW IS ESSENTIAL FOR ALL DANCERS WITH A PENIS, he deserved to be told off in a rude way in front of millions, and scolded for looking the way he looked, and acting the way he acted." That is the point you are putting across Lynne. Tell me why Nigel wasn't rude and why its ok to exploit Anthony's femininity for dramatic effect.
Oh and Rickey of course calling for a "masculine" stance and manner of movement are related to dance....if it was a woman dancing with a man....he might just as easily say she is not dancing feminine enough and she needs to do so to improve.
I think Nigel was right about Anthony. And beyond that...Anthony needs to be more aware of what he is doing in his performance....it is dancing...all about image and visuals throught the art of movement. So if he is not aware at all the vibe he is giving off...well he is not a very good "aware" dancer.
Hey...I am all for calling people when they make bigoted remarks....but I do not think Nigel did....and I agreed with him and thus, I am happy Anthony is gone.
Lynne! Are we not getting across to you??? How many times do I need to say this?
"Rickey...I think it is problematic that you are lumping not dancing masculine with being gay like they are the exact same thing....when they are soooooo not!"
When someone tells you that you don't LOOK or dance masculine (which Nigel said so many times, even describing Anthony's CLOTHES, "... what dressed with that shirt? (I don't believe that your are masculine)" in a condescending way), what do you think they are trying to tell you? Nigel even made it clearer when he interjected that "you're a MALE, I don't need to tell you to be masculine." So please read between the lines with me Lynne: NATURALLY a MALE should be dancing MASCULINE, which you Anthony unfortunately don't. Can't you see an insult when you see it? These are comments completely NOT RELATED TO DANCING.
I am not confusing anything. I am basing everything I've said on WHAT Nigel said to Anthony and HOW he said it.
As I said, it would have been ok if they just cut him (because they didn't like him, like you), but to color it with the bigoted remarks of Nigel, is what I am railing against.
On yes Nigel is snarky like Simon but he also has a kind side that we never once saw in Simon. Plus Nigel gives constructive advice whereas Simon just snarks without doing anything beneficial. Plus Nigel seems to have a very fun side...unlike the sullen Simon.
Rickey...I think it is problematic that you are lumping not dancing masculine with being gay like they are the exact same thing....when they are soooooo not!
Nigel (and me) did not enjoy watching Anthony dance...and so I think it is good that he is gone.
And it was Anthony who clearly did not understand how he was being perceived...and that is a key thing for ANY dancer to know.
But on future matters...looking forward to seeing how Brandon and the tall lady who did Irish dancing make out in the different disciplines...that is when this show will get fun to watch...when we see how they all do out of their elements.
Rickey, I agree with you regarding Anthony. You articulated it very well.
(P.S. - What is it with that name, Anthony :] )
i saw a peek at the host. what surgery do you think? i thought maybe her lips look odd, but it was from the top of her chest up (the little video) I couldn't see her body. Is this plastic surgery a body (er. chest) thing?
Nigel Lythgoe was the original Simon Cowell in the UK before Pop Idol or American Idol ever existed. He was a judge on some show called "Pop Stars" in the UK and was nicknamed "Nasty Nigel" by viewers because of his brutal comments. So, you could say that Simon Cowell has been copying him this whole time because he hired Simon to judge Pop Idol. Either that or there are just a lot of mean judges in the UK. LOL.
Yes, GO CHRIS!!! I will join his fan club, RC, just based on this photo alone (being silly of course, I haven't even seen him dance.) I know nothing about this adorable looking young man.
Sorry Dawn. You'll never see him again. EVER!! ha ha j/k. But he got eliminated already. I'm pretty bummed about that. I really hope that he gets discoverd though. If the dancing doesn't work out for him I totally think he could make it as a model. Whoever thinks that Chris is hot raise your hand! Let's start a fan club!! Geez I can't stop gawking at the pictures of him. I wish Rickey would post the video of Chris's performance!!.. hint hint..wink wink..Come on Rickey. PLEASE!!! you think he's hot too don't ya?? Come to think of it..anyone who does not think Chris is hot is seriously disturbed.
oh, boy, I'm reading up the thread now. I guess I should boycott this show for their assanine treatment of people.
YES!! I'm with Andy..Where are they?? And where's the video of his sexy performance? I want to see him dip it low and gyrate those hips again!! GASP!! I need to regain my composure. His wife is so lucky that she gets to wake up next to him! sigh..I hate her. J/K :)
it is beyond belief that I haven't seen this show yet. I'm so inept when it comes to the television. I'm dying to see this Chris Corres. He looks adorable.
I think you should write a letter to the show, Rickey. Don't change a word from what you said above. You made me stop and think.
Lynne: You cannot defend what they did to Anthony. The producers have the right to choose whoever they want for whatever bigoted reason, but the manner in which they did it to Anthony was appalling. If they had just cut him without the masculine remark, I wouldn't be reacting like this.
I just watched it again (thanks TimeWarner!), and Nigel set Anthony up for the confrontation. Anthony already said thanks after they said he wouldn't go to Hollywood even smiling, then Nigel fired away with the masculine comment to see what Anthony's reaction would be. It was specially cruel on second viewing. It was a calculated about-face after the other two judges said that he was one of the "best boys in New York" and a "hard act to follow".
As for your comment Lynne that Anthony 'didn't follow direction', I did not hear any. In fact Anthony said, if they wanted him to dance masculine why didn't they tell him -- then Nigel straight-faced scolded him that he didn't need to, because Anthony was supposed to be a 'man' and not be told to be one. (Just made me sick that I had to write that. Gay boys get confronted with this question EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR LIVES, and then to have a producer exploit it for dramatic effect is just sickening.) Also, Anthony was confident, not arrogant.
Finally we get to see the real mind behind the Idol franchise. Simon Cowell is just the pretty face who we have a love-hate relationship with, but this guy Nigel, he's the one who plays around with the vulnerabilities of the contestants behind the scenes. By the way he unremorsely treated Anthony, I am convinced that he is responsible for all the controversies on Idol.
It was such an awful demonstration to gay youth, who probably account for a good percentage of their audience. Boo!
I must say, I thought this show was going to be lame, but I couldn't stop watching. I liked Nigel (Dancing Simon). I thought he was honest and tried to give the dancers some direction to help them get through the next round.
That being said, I was a little put off by his comments to Anthony, however true. This kind of criticism must be more commonplace in the world of professional dance, or he wouldn't have been comfortable making a statement that is painfully obvious to everyone else, but that most people would be too polite to say out loud. In my opinion, Anthony is a beautiful dancer. This had been bothering me all day until the though occured to me that there is a dramatic element to dance, especially with a partner, that can't be ignored. He is very young. I'm sure he'll hear the same thing again in his career.
I liked the same people you did, Rickey, so I can't wait for next week so I can pick some new favorites who might stick around a little longer.
Anthony was given direction that he not only did not follow but was clueless about and arrogant about ....he has to follow choreographers' and producers' suggestions as part of this show and he did not with his partner and when given yet another chance to do so. He got eliminated after a fair shot. I would have eliminated him too.
Bring Anthony Back!!!
Nigel is sooo sympathetic to some dancers and so offended by Anthony Bryant's male package. That package was all male. Thank you Anthony!!! What a breath of fresh air!!!
The female judge is telling Anthony to grab us & be more outgoing. Nigel is telling him to just stop it! I would have stayed tuned to the show if I thought the show was not being used to put down men who upset Nigelâ€šÃ„Ã´s masculinity. Bring Anthony Back!!!
OMG Chris Corres is so unbelievably gorgeous. That is what I call SUPER HOT! And that BODY!! OMG!! I almost drowned in my own drool ha ha. I was so hoping that he would advance just so I could see him every week but oh well. Did you see him work it on the stage?? I would like him to teach me a few moves. Oh but wait. He's married and now he has a kid. That is one lucky lady. (sigh) But changing the subject, Rickey I totally agree with you about what happened w/ Anthony Bryant. That was so unfair. Nigel Lythgowe is such a ******* pig. Did you see how he was drooling over that buck-toothed belly dancer with the basketball boobs?? EWWW..I was surprised that they would actually show the producer actually telling that guy that "he is a male so he needs to act masculine." There was no need to offend anyone and all Nigel needed to say was "sorry you're not what we're looking for instead of "you look very feminine twirling those ribbons in the air." But oh well it's a TV show brought to you by Fox so what are you gonna do?? I just might tune in next week..if they bring Chris back!! J/K LOOK AT HIM!! I DARE YOU TO TELL ME THAT IS NOT PERFECTION!! I WANT HIM!!
I agree Rickey! Why would that even be a criteria? If he can dance all the dances, what else matters? Are they afraid that if he dances with a partner that it won't be convincing?
I didn't catch what the end prize will be....are there more than one winner? What do they get or do?
I agree with you Rickey. I'm surprised they left the show so vulnerable to criticism - and even to outcry - by airing so much information about why and how Anthony was eliminated! The was just W R O N G.
Hisssss and Booooo!!!
But he was SPECIFICALLY booted because he wasn't MASCULINE. Those were the very words and reason that Nigel gave. They also said that he was shy and needed to open up more, but because he wasn't masculine he wasn't going to Hollywood. I am still very angry.
Anthony deserved to get the boot for numerous reasons.
I really like Brandon. :) I like some of the other peeps but do not remember their names.
So far entertaining a bit but missing something but will give it another watch next time before I decide.
i actually liked it, its a bit like idol with dancing instead. Paula is going to be joining the show soon, nigel is nicer i think than simon at least he lets u go on to prove urself a bit more. Plus it fills that void where idol used to be. yay!