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Danny Gokey backlash?

  • by Rickey
  • February 19, 2009 at 3:30 am
American Idol · American Idol · American Idol 8 · Danny Gokey · Scandal

danny gokey backlash Danny Gokey backlash?

Someway, somehow, the much maligned Tatiana Del Toro managed to come across as a victim last night — at the hands of none other than American Idol 8 “saviour” Danny Gokey! He’s a Douchkey!

Front-runner resentment by Idol fans fueled by the unrelenting “pimping” of Idol by emphasizing that Danny Gokey’s wife died just a few months ago has now taken hold of the Internet watercooler. And it is no longer just Idol producers they are blaming but Danny himself.

His family members showed a picture of his dead wife on camera, a blatant reminder that he is a grieving widower. And when his name was announced, Danny’s reaction showed no sympathy at all to Tatiana — who was obviously being setup by the show for a nervous breakdown. Danny should have known what was happening. He came across as smug, selfish and a non-gentleman.

The pimping of his dead wife for sympathy votes comes with his family’s consent since they themselves are doing it — and fans are not reacting kindly to it.

That aside, I still like Danny Gokey. I still believe he can sing. He can still give us hope. But the dead wife thing is a bit much. And right now, the Internet is showing no love.

Just sing Danny. Stop your family from parading your dead wife around, and stop American Idol from doing the same.

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matt
matt 5pts

what's sick is you even thinking he would use his dead wife for fame and fortune. shame on you rickey, just trying to stir the pot

matt
matt 5pts

seriously, grow up Rickey

Anna
Anna 5pts

really loving Danny's voice and his talent which is what it's about. I do hate it when shows like this use a person's background to make them appealing to the public and it's a real shame it's backfired because I truely believe that he has the talent to go all the way. I'll be happy if it's him and Adam in the final. Tit - ania wasn't entirely all there and i was glad when she didn't get through. I do believe though that Danny needs to pull a performance out of the bag like the one in hollywood group week when they sang a queen song find me somebody to love. It showed his style and great vocals. I'm going now as I feel thats enough gushing about him for one day.

Neenah
Neenah 5pts

Tatiana was the drama queen, and her weird laugh. im glad danny beat her out. and jeez ur hating on danny, get a life, his wife just passed away show some sympathy god! its not his fault the camera likes him. he has an interesting story. and he isnt pimping his wife died. put urself in ur shoes. if ur wife died...u wouldnt want ppl hating on u just bcuz tv likes ur background...
GO DANNY!!!!!!

Laura Donovan
Laura Donovan 5pts

Totally disagree, I thought Tatiana was a selfish, ridiculous brat who thought this show was for her and her only. As far as Danny is concerned, you cannot blame him for "pimping" his wife, he hardly talks about it. No one should pass judgment on this subject unless they have, unfortunately, been in the situation. Danny is a fantastic singer and I hope he wins or at least makes it to the finals!!

Mike Jones
Mike Jones 5pts

You couldn't be more wrong.

Let's kill the person you love and see if you can't help but be completely consumed by it.

He isn't "pimping" his dead wife. The producers know it makes for good television and that is why they keep bringing it up.

As for Tatiana, she deserves to be smirked at, to say the least. She was a complete and total drama queen and ego maniac with somewhat greater than average singing talent.

Danny Gokey is the best all around contestant so far in my opinion.

But what do I know, I don't have my own domain name.

aifan2boot
aifan2boot 5pts

Rickey, what gives you the right to judge someone's emotions after they've lost someone dear to them? I lost my mother six years ago and it still hurts. With all of his emotions from losing his wife and then being on the show and being picked for the top 12, his emotions were probably all over the place. He deserved to be happy because he's an awesome singer.

As for Tatiana, I watched her after Danny won and she stood back behind the other contestants bawling her eyes out when the rest of the contestants were happy and clappying for Danny. All Tatiana could think of was herself. She's self-centered and I REALLY HOPE THEY DO NOT ASK HER BACK FOR THE WILDCARD ROUND!!!!!! I can't stand her.

abercrombieco2
abercrombieco2 5pts

did Archie's wife die? how are you comparing them both? david a is a nieve young kid . i think two totaly differnt situations. ppl are just looking for stuff that isn't even there , oh no he had a smile on his face when he was told hes in the top 12. he must be a jerk. i guess you can't be happy at all.

love4elliott
love4elliott 5pts

GO DANNY!!!!!!!!!!

GEEZ GUYS, JUST IMAGINE HOW EMPTY AND BORING THESE BOARDS AND BLOGS WOULD BE IF THERE WAS NO PIMPING OF ANYONE ON THE SHOW...

THAT'S WHAT THIS SHOW IS ALL ABOUT....CONTROVERSY!!! MEDIA AND RATINGS = MONEY PEOPLE

Helen91
Helen91 5pts

why the hell are you comparing danny to david? while you're at it lets compare danny to banana man and then danny to recylcling bins.

Davidourboywonder
Davidourboywonder 5pts

Compare the difference between Danny and Archie. They acted totally different after they were gushed over by the judges.

Lisa-Lisa
Lisa-Lisa 5pts

Go Danny! He should be happy for himself making it past this round. Isn't that why they are all there? I hope he wins it all.

Helen91
Helen91 5pts

yes in the past.... 92 is a lot for him lately. Rickey himself has said that he hasn't been getting a lot of posters since last season ended... nvm.

Jodi
Jodi 5pts

92 comments is nothing for Rickey. Our boy's gotten hundreds for other posts in the past, and I think may have even approached 1,000 for some Archuleta stuff last season.

Rickey has not yet BEGUN to rock!

Helen91
Helen91 5pts

92 comments! rickey you must be happy :)

sweetangel1051
sweetangel1051 5pts

Uh, I watched that part over again to see if I missed what the big fuss was about, and I am shocked. I saw nothing wrong, wtf? He actually gave her a hug. And why wouldn't he be smiling, he just made it through to the next round. What, you want him to be fake (like Tatiana) and not smile, pretend he's not happy he made it??? People on the Net are LAME! It's not like he yelled 'ha ha!' or anything like that...

stc_3391
stc_3391 5pts

To all of you that think he is doing this to get votes.....I give you the finger. Jerks!

stc_3391
stc_3391 5pts

You've got to be effing kidding me!!!

I am so sick of the assinine remarks being made about Danny's personal loss. He's been through a lot and I cannot believe that stupid people want to make it out to be something to get sympathy and votes. JERKS!

WTF is wrong with holding up his wife's picture? Should he pretend she didn't exist? Why can't he keep her memory alive and show her picture?

He is not smug at all. He just didn't want to set that psycho Tatiana into full drama queen mode before the decision could be announced. He did give her a hug afterwards. Why is that good enough? WTF was he supposed to do?

I saw these same kind of assinine remarks made about David Cook and he didn't even let anyone know about his brother. I swear some of the American Idol fans will go down in history as being the biggest jerks ever to watch reality TV.

Helen91
Helen91 5pts

Someone is having fun hating on Danny here. You know what else is fun? Playing with plastic bags, pills and pillow cases. It's Fricken American Idol, they do what they want and get millions of people to dial in useless votes. It's good entertainment nonetheless.

abercrombieco2
abercrombieco2 5pts

ppl on the net have no shame. while i don't like the show using what happend to danny to put him as a star on the show. i doubt this is what he is doing. all he is doing is celebrating his wifes life and hes doing it for her. if you see ppl on tv with shirts of there loved ones from a tragedy , do you say there wearing those shirts because they want to be on tv? or are they celebrating there loved ones life. if you had some one really close to you , pass away , wouldn't you want ppl to know about them, wouldn't you talk about them? would you show pictures to ppl? its just sad how ppl are trying to turn this around on danny to try to hurt his popularity . what about all those i'm poor storys and this is my one chance to make it to esecape from being poor. every one has a sob story , yet if you like them you won't bash them for it won't u. you'll just bash the ones you don't like.

brownstarz
brownstarz 5pts

changing user names are fun, right? :P

brownstarz
brownstarz 5pts

Danny's a media whore to the worst degree. nuff said.

Natalia
Natalia 5pts

Danny is actually a puppet. Didn't you notice one of the producers with his hand up Danny's back? They are talking for him and Danny is just moving his mouth. And the video of Danny's proposal to his late wife? It fell out of the sky and landed in the lap of one of the producers. And the producers forced Danny's family member to show a picture of his late wife on the show. At gunpoint. Yeah.

DJ Ryce
DJ Ryce 5pts

re: silvercloud

Hooray! The voice of sanity and reason has returned!

"Actually, if any loved one of mine passed away, I imagine I’d be talking about it a lot, not for sympathy, but because, for some people, it’s a coping mechanism."

I think you raise up a very good point. Not to make this board the most depressing thread ever, but just a quick example, my roommate's mother just passed away (very young and very unexpectedly), and for the first couple weeks, she brought it up incessantly. It was almost like she needed to remind everybody that it happened, or else she wouldn't believe it herself. True, it could get a little uncomfortable, but I think it was her own personal way of showing acceptance.

People cope with tragedy and hardship in a variety of ways. Some people will get depressed and want to stay in bed for days. Others will do the opposite and engage in all sorts of activities to keep busy and distracted. Most people will violently swing back and forth between both.

All of the contestants have their personal motivations that drive them to this competition. Lil Rounds and Michael Sarver had hardships in their life. Alexis Grace is a single mother. Nathaniel has a messed up childhood. A few of the contestants just want a record deal. Norman Gentle seems in it for the fun. I don't see how Danny coming on this show in memory of his wife is any better or worse.

To be sure, TPTB overdid it with the exposure and the clips. It's hard to say how much control Danny himself had over his packaging. The contestants aren't the editors, after all. I question the taste of the producers, but I'd like to give the person the benefit of the doubt.

violet4ever
violet4ever 5pts

I am not sick of anybody or anything except Tatiana and the whole show format this year.

Simon has too much control - 2 votes out of 5 (1 1 1 2). Add to that the MASSIVE cuts and the wildcards and this is not the people's pick any more. This is 19E's pick. And I don't know how much more of it I can watch.

That said, I have no grievances against Danny. I like his singing and I felt it. I don't think he is good enough to win, but I like him. Anoop and Ricky should both still be in the game, but at least one of them won't be because AI's changes suck.

Kobisan
Kobisan 5pts

lol, desi.

cisforcooky
cisforcooky 5pts

This was the wonderful thing about David Cook. He NEVER allowed Idol to pimp the terminal illness of his brother, nor did he do it himself. They tried to force it out of him at times (remember Ryan asking him about his tears following his performance of Always Be My Baby when his brother was in the audience?) Fans cared, and worked to help his brother themselves, but found David's humbleness endearing and dignified. I really think Danny is a good person and is a bit unaware of what is happening to him.

themanwashere
themanwashere 5pts

i kinda agree with silvercloud. this is after all a tv show. who knows, this might be another manufactured drama by AI.

but for the most part i do dislike the overpimping but I don't dislike the person. who are we to judge him based on an hour's worth of a tv show. and I think hate is to strong of a word to be used against a contestant.

i just wish Nigel was still in AI? he would've probably handled things better. It's kind of sad that Danny has to take the brunt of all the negativity.

its great that someone like silvercloud actually checks the facts first.

i wish danny, adam and matt giraud the best.

Davidourboywonder
Davidourboywonder 5pts

I have seen a lot of backlash towards Gokey. I am kinda indifferent towards him because I want to see ALL the singers first to make my pick, but I have noticed the 'dead wife' thingy. At first I thought it was quite sad, but now I kinda don't think it is helping him.

desi
desi 5pts

brb changing my rickey.org username.

silvercloud
silvercloud 5pts

Yes, it was 4 weeks, not 4 months...I didn't realize I typed months.... and....... doesn't change anything. Who wouldn't be talking about it, thinking about it...in fact, thinking of little else...while doing something he knew she enjoyed... sigh...

jaded
jaded 5pts

i totally agree, jojojaya. i was sick of him from the very beginning, only partly because of idol's pimping and more because of his own pimping. and it's not four months; his first audition was four WEEKS after her passing. hope giver? despicable.

silvercloud
silvercloud 5pts

Hmmm...

Okay, for the poster who posted about the link to Faith Builders and the charity for his wife...that myth has already been debunked by the hater of all AI sites..VTFW...go read and find out. Don't spread false info.

For the posters who can't comprehend he would go on AI so soon after losing his ex-wife...google her bebo page...she was clearly an AI fan and considered herself one of the "soul patrol." This was his way of doing something she wanted him to do; that is also why it is so exciting to him that he makes the Top 12; kind of like he is sharing something with her, even though she's gone.

To those who compare his wife's death to Cook's brother...not even the same. AI didn't find out about DC's brother until later on in the competition, so they didn't get to pimp the crap out of it upfront. AI found out about this early on and had the opportunity (and motive) to pimp it until it has turned normal, caring people into rabid, ugly dogs. Yes, Danny gave them the info, but, if your spouse had just passed away a few months ago, and you were auditioning because you know she was a fan, wouldn't you mention it? Actually, if any loved one of mine passed away, I imagine I'd be talking about it a lot, not for sympathy, but because, for some people, it's a coping mechanism.

Has it gotten out of control...well, yes. Is it Danny's fault? Not really; it's the fault of everyone as a whole, but mostly TPTB. Look at the publicity it's generating...yes, yes, AI, we all fell into your trap once again...we will never learn.

I am the biggest Danny fan ever? No. I think he's fairly good, depending on the song choice. I actually think I will be a huge Adam fan, with Danny falling somewhere between 2-6, and I am really rooting for Anoop to be brought back, and I think Rick Braddy got the raw end of the stick, so, no, I'm not a lovestruck Danny fan trying to defend him, just one of the few rational people left out there who is also willing to do a little googling to learn something about a person before randomly trashing them.......

Tatiana... I kind of enjoyed the crazy girl, but... her actions were repulsive on Wed...she wasn't the crazy girl that was entertaining...she was a spoiled, little snot. EIGHT other people got the boot Wed!!! Did they act like her? No. AI set up the "down to the wire final 2", so they are at fault. Danny, Ryan and I think, Casey or Stevie (look again..look closer) are the ONLY
three people that would even hug her!!! The others either avoided her, or tapped her on the shoulder, when she came to cry on them. Sheesh!!! Guess what? They had just been dumped on by AI too, and we are all supposed to weep for she who got the most screentime because Danny and the other rejectees didn't fall all over her? I didn't see Michael Sarver or Alexis Grace run to console her with a hug? Are they bad people now too? Obviously, none of them cared much for her...do you blame them? She's entertaining to watch (when she's not heavily medicated), irritating on her meds, and someone I wouldn't want to spend much time losing sleep over either.

Go Team michaelasmom! I just said that because I agree with nearly all of your comments, so won't bother to repeat your sentiments on losing a loved one! :)

jojojaya
jojojaya 5pts

I lost my dear husband and I would never have being on a TV reality show (it not a singing contest, has never being and never will be) 4 months after his death (nor any of my widowed friends). No matter how you handle grief, there is a minimum of respect, privacy and decency for the person gone to be respected. Danny opening a foundation and then auditioning for AI 4 months after her passing... come on! His wife passing: sad yes, using her passing to promote himself: creepy at best!

MomWithODD
MomWithODD 5pts

hi michaelasmom ... I don't know if you remember me, but I certainly remember you from last season because my neice's name is also micaela... anyway, I'm sorry for your loss and I hope things are getting better for you. take care!

MomWithODD
MomWithODD 5pts

Wow! I must say, it is really different looking in from the outside... now that I am TOTALLY detached from the hoopla of AI ... well, let's just say I'm seeing things from a totally different perspective with no emotional strings attached ... I went thru that emotional roller coaster last season and I knew that was it for me ... I'm soooooo glad I don't have the slightest need to watch anymore! WOOHOO!! .... um, except if a certain someone were to return and perform ... ahem! ;)

It's interesting too for me to learn what is going on just by reading rickey's and not actually watching the show.

Anyway, so .... I really see everyone's viewpoints from both sides and can understand everyone's take on things. It just blows my mind that after reading everything, I'm not worked up about anything... feels ... almost liberating! :) But I can see how people on both sides can get worked up over this.... and it just might be a really long season for some of you ... sigh, been there, done that! ... but it's all good now! :)

Hanny! ... you cracked me up there! HAHA!! :) You were the last person I thought I'd find here! ...that is if you're the one I'm thinking of from last season --If you are, then it's GREAT to see you again!! hehehe! hope you are well!

violet4ever
violet4ever 5pts

Yeah this sounds fishy:
http://topidol.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/more-about-danny-gokeys-church-charity/

BTW is the person writing this stuff American Idol reject Chris Bernheisel?
In the About comments here:
"Hi, Chris. I picked up the domain name, http://www.chrisbernheisel.com and wondered if you were interested in it."
http://topidol.wordpress.com/about/
Only audition video I could find...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6yqn-jOJ5Q

Re Tatiana - I hope they throw her back to torture everybody. She's gotta lose that new Xanax personality though.

abercrombieco2
abercrombieco2 5pts

this is geting way out of hand your comparing david cooks sick brother to dannys dead wife? it seems like ppl are trying to make danny look bad on purpose to help make other ppl popular. lets nof forget the stuff ppl said about Tatiana on the internet and how much ppl hated her , and isn't this the same person who said thank me im so good and we are are suposed to feel bad for her?its funny the same ppl that made fun of her are probally the same ppl that were bashing her like crazy. `

Natalia
Natalia 5pts

You think Gokey treated Tatiana like that because he's afraid of her? What did he think she was going to do? Break his 3-D glasses?

LMM
LMM 5pts

Also, Tatiana is very unstable. People seem genuinely afraid of her. The fact that she could go off on them at any minute, would make any sane person want to keep their distance, especially when she has just been told she was voted off. I love that America wasn't manipulated by her. Thank goodness she's gone. Now let's hope the producers don't bring her back. If they do, I'm done watching for this season. Or at least until she's voted off again!

LMM
LMM 5pts

David Cook has been putting both of his brother's initals on his guitar since he was a kid. David never spoke about his brother being sick publicly while on the show - ever. I think this whole thing about Danny needs to be dropped already. People are making this a way bigger deal than Danny or Idol ever did.

binary
binary 5pts

I enjoyed all those little smirks Danny made at her - everyone knows that she's completely fake and he wasn't having it. She totally deserved it.

Natalia
Natalia 5pts

The initials "AC" are the initials of BOTH David Cook's brothers, the younger of which was the entire catalyst for Cook auditioning for Idol in the first place.

And no, Cook never allowed his situation to be mentioned on the show nor did he preach or proselytize about his indomitable spirit and how he could be an inspiration to others.

hanny47
hanny47 5pts

You mean David Cook never once mentioned his brother except for putting his initials on his guitar so we would all know who he was singing for and if we didn't we would ask, "Hey what is that big A C for on his guitar?" Oh and they never flew his brother in for the shows and they never put the close-up camera on his brother either.

desi
desi 5pts

SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET ANONYMOUSLY POSTED SOMETHING THAT SAYS DANNY GOKEY IS A DOUCHE. i am sold. this is gospel.

i guess the bible was written anonymously too, wasn't it?

Jodi
Jodi 5pts

P.S. Right on, Druzilla. I couldn't agree more.

Natalia
Natalia 5pts

The "Danny can't help how he's being packaged" argument would have worked with me if the subject weren't being brought up every hour on the hour. Also, David Cook never mentioned his brother once on the show last season and it was never part of how he was "packaged".

Jodi
Jodi 5pts

Am I the only one who saw that Danny did, indeed, hug that hair-fluffing chunk of self-absorption last night after learning that he was going through and she was not? He even made a sympathetic little pout-type face at her while they were waiting to learn the results.

I didn't see any dickishness. I just saw a guy who wanted to know the results already, who wanted to breathe a sigh of relief no matter what the result, and who was really happy that he was the one who made it through.

Again, I felt no sympathy for Tatiana. She's the self-serving one here. And, of course, clearly off her rocker.

druzilla
druzilla 5pts

I do think Idol's gone a bit far and defining Gokey as the "death wife guy" but, seriously, if he didn't have the chops he wouldn't have been voted through. Get over people.

If his wife were alive, she would be in the audience. If he was a single mom (Fantasia), we'd be hearing about that too. You people aren't ignorant of how the show operates.

As far as the link in the comment about how evil Gokey's church is, again, get over it. Oh dear me, a musical director argued musical points with band and choir members. That arrogant rat bastard how dare he do what he's paid to do!

I'm tired of the angle Idol is using but I doubt Danny has much control over how they package him. Get a grip people.

Klope62
Klope62 5pts

Amen.

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