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‘American Idol’: Source confirms Judges’ Save is gone; contingency plan in effect to prevent season ending early

Credit: FOX

Credit: FOX

Via: TVLine

With four weeks and four contestants remaining, American Idol producers need to find a way to add an extra week to the competition to make up for the Judges’ Save having not been used.

The Save, which was only good through top 5, was not used to save fifth-place finisher Janelle Arthur. Though there has been speculation that the Save would remain in effect for top 4 (or for as long as Amber Holcomb needs it), a source close to the show has told TVLine.com that this is not the case. “Officially, the [Season 12] Judges’ Save is no longer,” said the insider. “But there’s always been a contingency plan if the Save was not used.”

The hard math goes like this:

If one of the Top 4 contestants (Kree Harrison, Candice Glover, Angie Miller or Amber Holcomb) is booted on this Thursday’s results show (April 25, 8/7 c on Fox) and a second singer bites the dust next week (May 2), that would place the Top 2 results show on May 9, a full week before the finale.

Adding to the confusion was that in prior seasons, the “Save” (introduced in Season 8, and since used to overrule voters’ ousters of Matt Giraud, Michael Lynche, Casey Abrams and Jessica Sanchez) expired prior to Top 5 week. Last week, however, subsequent fifth-place finisher Janelle Arthur was allowed to sing for her life — before the judges told Ryan Seacrest they could not come to a unanimous decision about using their sole Save of the season.

Because no one likes a man that finishes early, Nigel Lythgoe is implementing a solution to this problem (which, really, after twelve seasons he should have had the good sense to avoid in the first place). The show can’t end a week early, nor can it reschedule the finale, since the Nokia is already booked, and, presumably, finale acts have already been scheduled — acts who likely don’t have room in their schedule for a different finale date. This is without getting into Idol’s contract with FOX, as a premature finish would result in the show being in violation of its agreement.

Prevailing wisdom suggests that there will be a non-elimination week, with the vote tallies carried over into the next week. But questions remain: When do they implement it? At top 4? Do they wait until top 3? Or do we have a two-week finale? Things are getting pretty hectic (and exciting, actually) as we get towards the end of this season.

What do you think of this news? How should they fix the scheduling issue? Sound off in the comments!

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script7
script7

I wonder which judge(s) screwed everything up.. I'll bet it was Nikki

IdleTime
IdleTime

There will be no elimination either this week or next week, depending on how Amber does this Wednesday.  If she's 4th place, there will be no elimination this Thursday.  If she ranks above that, then whoever 4th place will be eliminated.

They will keep her around as long as possible to cramp her down our throat.  Even if she doesn't advance to the finale, she will be sufficiently exposed enough for them to launch her career after Idol.

ArchieSue
ArchieSue

Lols at people still arguing about this, really?  It's obvious that they have an extra week. They will probably do a no elimination week or something to stay on schedule.  :) It's all good, is it crazy of me if I rather skip the Voice tonight to watch Bates Motel again. haha  I'm getting bored of singing competition shows.  OH wait this is about idol. Nigel and company will figure something out.  :)

Rickey
Rickey moderator

Maybe the contigency plan is this: bring back someone via viewer vote.

mwk89
mwk89

Were they just going to eliminate 1 person the next week if they used the save? Otherwise, there shouldn't be any conflict with finale date

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@ArchieSue It's not obvious to @mwk89. Please talk some sense into him! You have a better bedside manner than I do.

NickRoman1
NickRoman1 moderator

@Rickey The time for that was during top 10 week when Aubrey and Charlie were singing off. Ain't nobody got time for that now.

ArchieSue
ArchieSue

@mwk89 Yes they would only eliminate one per week with the save since they didn't have a wildcard this year. They will only need to eliminate one person. :) Remember you only need two people the last week for the finale.  :) Don't worry everything will work out.  They should of used the save on Burnell or Devin. OH well.....

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@mwk89 OMG THERE IS A CONFLICT. Please it's simple math. How many times does the world need to explain this. The finale is on May 16 - that's FOUR WEEKS from now. There are only FOUR CONTESTANTS left. Meaning there are only THREE eliminations (TWO eliminations and ONE finale between TWO PEOPLE). 

UNBELIEVABLE. Please it's simple math. Send me an e-mail, I will talk to you over the phone and explain it.

MWK: If they used the save last week... guess what: there would still be FIVE CONTESTANTS. So NO, it's NOT THE SAME. SIMPLE MATH. OMG. 

NickRoman1
NickRoman1 moderator

@Rickey @mwk89 I think the problem that is confusing a lot of people this year, and I completely understand why, is that not everyone has been made aware of Nigel's plan regarding the Save. Basically, he scheduled an extra week for the competition so that he wouldn't have to eliminate two people after the save was used. He'd only have to eliminate one. Yet the prevailing belief is that two people would have been eliminated following the save this season regardless, because that's how it's always been (well, except for last season). 

So I understand the confusion. That said, it should be clear by now that the show is on track to finish a week early. It's been illustrated and publicized enough that it shouldn't really be something people have debates about anymore. 

That said, what I don't understand is why so many people assumed the save would still be in play, when Ryan has explained in past weeks that it was only good up til top 5. Then again, they've circumvented their own rules before, so it wouldn't surprise me if they reactivated it if, say, Amber goes home this week. But most likely they'll just do a non-elimination this week and carry the votes over into next week.

mwk89
mwk89

@Rickey @mwk89 umm, yeah, nope. The way they have usually done the save, 2 people were eliminated the next week. So it would have been (top 5 to top 5 to top 3), as opposed to (top 5 to top 4 to top 3). Seriously, stop having a fucking hissy fit

ChrisYates1
ChrisYates1

so you have cleared up the confusion @NickRoman1, thank you. at some point they got rid of the next week double elim after save. It seems obvious to me they've already solved the problem by what they did last week, allowing the judges to continue to have a chance to save even though we should be past that, this will continue, so therefore, no problem. it is the pattern they established already starting last week.  

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@mwk89 C'mon you need to have the last word. I want your brilliant comeback. :)

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@mwk89 Go debate me some more, c'mon.

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@mwk89   Oops, I corrected it. 2, two weeks. 1, one week.

E-mail me. Let's just talk.

mwk89
mwk89

@Rickey @mwk89 top 5 top 5 top 3 with 2 being eliminated, top 5 top 5 to top 4 with just 1

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@mwk89 If they eliminated 2 they are two weeks short. If they eliminate 1 they are one week short. That's why it doesn't matter. They are short!

JUST COUNT. SIMPLE MATH. 


mwk89
mwk89

@Rickey @mwk89 yeah, it would have mattered if it 1 or 2 eliminated after, LOL. Someone failed counting in elementary school

Rickey
Rickey moderator

@mwk89 OMG LAST SEASON THERE WAS ONLY ONE ELIMINATION AFTER THE SAVE WAS USED. DON'T YOU REMEMBER? I'VE WATCHED THIS SHOW FOR YEARS. GOOGLE IT.

And it doesn't matter if one or two. Just use YOUR BRAIN. Count the weeks with one or two they are one week short. JUST COUNT. NOW. COUNT THE WEEKS NOW.

OK? That's what this rant is all about. Just count. Simple math.