American Idol 11 Top 4 – Results – Live Blog – May 10, 2012

 @rezzzy I could care less about that my dear, seriously. Their or maybe your problem not mine :-)

 @NathanDG Well, her mouth is big enough....and she needs the protein. 

And by where she'll place, I mean where they will have her place. By pimping the living hell out of her, they are trying to do what they didn't do for Pia last year. If they repeat the BS enough, many lemmings will follow.

 @rezzzy Just proves my point. Jessica is consuming you!!! :P

 @NathanDG Same to you deary... ;-)

I also find it very interesting that they still have not added the tour dates for the Philippines yet. I think they are watching the numbers to see where she will place and how many shows to schedule.

 @Joystickenvy  @Lombe Thanks!

 @rezzzy Really that's all you got? Ugh, pathetic.

 @NathanDG Um, I read the UK press. I'm just passing this info on. Nice try though. Your Jessica tarding is consuming you ;-D

 @rezzzy  I'm not surprised that you're kinda out of touch with the other contestants' news, your obsession about everything Jessica is consuming you...

 @Lombe  @NathanDG Welcome to the Internet.  

 @NathanDG it's not a lie, it's speculation.  none of us to can prove it either way.  what can be stated is that jessica has a substantial foreign backing and that members of that group have been publicaly promoting ways to circumvent the rules that prevent foreign votes from being counted.

Personally, I believe that the producers count whatever votes they feel like counting so they can continue to claim 80 billion votes cast, in spite of falling ratings and so they can get the winner they want.  They also aren't specifying that all those votes actually counted, so technically they aren't even lying :>

Can I prove it....nope, but that doesn't mean it ain't true.  It means it's speculation.   

 @NathanDG  @Joystickenvy Exactly what I've been saying. Whilst anti-Jessica tards do carry a solid point, they can't prove anything. Maybe when she puts out an album and has 0 sales in the U.S, then your seemingly absurd claims can be somewhat justified, but until then people should not make claims they can't back up with solid facts.

 @Joystickenvy I get your point..but to say that majority of Jessica's votes are from overseas is a lie. No one here could ever prove that.

 @NathanDG  @Joystickenvy I must be missing something...can you please point out to me any articles in The Daily Mail and The Sun, etc, where they are even promoting Holly as someone originally from the UK? All they report is the feud and ratings war between Britain's Got Talent and The Voice. Plus all of Simon's bios sordid fluff.

 @NathanDG Nathan, the people who comment here are not at all typical of the general voting fan base.  that's why I like it here, jessica tards aside.  if you look other places people love p2 and joshua and they rarely mention jessica at all.

 @rezzzy  @Lombe if it look like a duck and quacks like a duck.....;)

 @Lombe  @Joystickenvy Lombe spake "Now I sound like a troll." So, what's new ;-D

 @Joystickenvy  Ahaha! And I'll continue to intentionally ignore unless someone can prove to me that Those foreign votes are counted rather than been thrown out by TPTB. 

Now I sound like a troll.  *sigh*

 @Lombe  @NathanDG I'll also add before you get all butt hurt and start flipping out defending your lord and savior Jessica, I really don't care whether they are counting foreign votes for her or not, but they are hurting the show if they are, because the ratings in the U.S. will continue to drop if a winner that the majority of U.S. voters didn't vote for is crowned

 @Lombe  @NathanDG the point you are intentionally ignoring is, the number of foreign votes that may be cast for p2 or joshua is insignificant compared to the large foreign following of jessica sanchez

 @Lombe Dude, what part of the producers will decide which votes to throw out and when ---- are you not getting?

 @rezzzy   I should add, that with low anonymity proxies ( E.G Hotspot), whilst you can't detect the location, it is entirely possible to know if the person is using a proxy or not!. I'm sure the guys at Telescope Inc are able to detect that and throw the votes coming through Proxies out!

 @Mikhail XO  Hyperbole Alert ^^^ !!!  Not my fault I'm a little too argumentative sometimes.

 @rezzzy  @Lombe You might as well ask him to  explain how many sides a circle has or what exists outside the highest space curvature. You'll receive the same answer...."ummmm.."

 @rezzzy  @Lombe  @Mikhail XO The same way the voting has been increasing every year, but the last couple of years have seen ratings decline.

 @rezzzy  The fact that I am not able to explain either of those things does not necessarily mean You're right or wrong.

I have not comprehensively compared this and last season's ratings so I can't give you any logical explanation. But I can speculate. And I do have my theories. But I'll keep them to myself.

As for the highly manipulated Game Show theory, there is a high possibility of that being true. But then if that is the case, Nigel and Simon Fuller must be some really really smart  bastards if they've been able to fool an entire country for 11 Years without getting caught.

 @Lombe  @Mikhail XO I'll also add that the purpose of these programmes to to mask the details like location and time zone. Duh.

 @Lombe  @Mikhail XO Lombe, I would like for you to explain to me how exactly the ratings for the show have gone down, yet the vote numbers have skyrocketed. I would also like for you to prove to me that AI has not been from the very beginning highly producer manipulated and cast as a reality TV show posing as a game show.

 @Mikhail XO Well Michael, While I did post that link, for people to try and vote( I would gladly do it again), I soon discovered that even if they vote, they do it in vain.

So whilst there is Egg on my face for that post, an act (albeit wrong) by some over-zealous 'Non-American' fans should not taint the inevitable victory by the Gifted Ms Sanchez as you and Ms Rezzzy suggest !

 @Lombe  @rezzzy For the record, I came up with NO conspiracy theories. Don't address me by saying "you two" when I did not state what you claim or u will be deleted. I was commenting on what rezzy said and if she is correct (I have no idea if she is/is not) then I believe it only hurts Jess. I do know, however, that you posted on here a link  for 'Blue Jays'--  non-Americans to vote for her. How's that egg on your face, Lombe?

 @Mikhail XO  @rezzzy 1.I was responding to both you and rezzzy. Blame Livefyre for the way they organize their comments. 2.Don't tell me to watch it 3. I don't have anything else to say!

 @Lombe  @rezzzy 1. Do not address me when I never said what you claim in your comment, Lombe. 2. I was responding to what rezzy said  3. Watch it.

 @Mikhail XO @rezzzy  From the American Idol Website Community Section. Question answered by a moderator ,

Telescope (the company that actually handles the phone voting) most definitely can and does detect the country of origin (and a lot of other data) for each and every call/text they recieve and those that don't qualify under the rules Idol has do get thrown out.

"Country of origin" is detected based on the area code of the phone number registered to the phone and votes are further validated based on where the phone is located (based on the cell tower the phone is accessing to make the call) to ensure the call is made during the 2 hour voting window for that region.

From the voting FAQs:

If you are calling or text voting from a cell phone and you are in a different time zone from your cell phone number, the voting systems will accept or reject your vote based on the time zone of your cell phone area code.  For example, if you have a New York cell phone area code but are calling from Los Angeles after the West Coast broadcast, you will be voting outside the East Coast voting window and your vote will not be accepted so try calling again from a landline telephone during the West Coast voting window or use another vote method.

They couldnt do that if they couldn't determine the location from which a call is placed.

Just because a call/text/online vote goes through, doesn't mean it gets counted.A LOT OF PEOPLE VOTING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ARE WASTING THEIR TIME. 

 @Mikhail XO  @rezzzy You two are ridiculous

 She hasn't even won yet and coming up with awful conspiracy theories you will never be able to prove.! Even if her International fans decide to vote for her, You cannot by any means prove that those Votes are being counted. 

You can detect when someone is using a proxy! The Only way to get away with using a proxy is if you use a High Anonymity Proxy like Tor. I've read the articles people post and the proxy everyone ALLEGEDLY cheats with is Hotspot Sheild. Its not as effective as Tor and is only good for people in Countries that have their internet sensored E.G China, Syria , Egypt, Libya e.t.c

Telescope Inc, the company that moderates Voting for most reality shows including The Voice, would not want to get their hand tarnished with a case of this type.

It's insane that you would even go as far as suggest that American's are NOT voting for her. An absolute ludicrous claim you cannot prove and the Logic you use regarding her elimination at Top 7, is the kind of Logic you expect from a ____________.

 @rezzzy  @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump in all my time living in the midwest I've never heard anyone of any age use that term. they use the other one when they want to be racist.  but i heard it a ot in the south.  my granny was raised in arkansas.

 @Joystickenvy  @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump I've never heard either of my grandmothers using that term, but then they're damn yankees. 

 @rezzzy  @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump i'll add that my granny, who passed about ten years ago was born in 1914.  Most oft the people I know still using that term are in their 60s and 70s.  Or Jessica Lange on American Horror Story ;)

 @rezzzy  @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump still pretty common amongst older people in the south.  my great grandma still used it, but that's what she grew up with.  however, as has been stated, it's generally viewed as racist or at the best extremely out of touch.  and most of the people I know who are still using that term in the south are in fact racist.

 @Mikhail XO  @rezzzy  @hrstump dearest mikhail, i am not confused.  trust!

 @IdleTime  @hrstump I know you didn't "make it up" some confederate slave owner had that 'honor'.

 @IdleTime  @rezzzy  @hrstump You are confusing "colored" (DEROGATORY) with the acceptable phrase "people of color"--two different terms meaning different things. "people of color" is to define anyone non-white. "Colored" is a derogatory term used in the last century and before the late 1960's and early 1970's to describe black people. It is now considered to be highly offensive. Don't use it here.

 @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump "Them colored peoples sure do have rhythm and likes them some watermelon, right Bubba?"

 @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump Still used widely WHERE?

 @rezzzy  @IdleTime  @hrstump The 85 yr old grannies even know better.

 @rezzzy  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump it's still used widely.  and i didn't refer it to just joshua, but also jessica.  and if you read my original post.  there's irony in my usage.  i also called hollie and P2 "whities".  Reading comprehension.

 @IdleTime Do you live in the states? If so...then it's use  is considered derogatory if not quasi-racist. I am not saying you are racist. It is no longer good form to express someone who is AA or black as "colored". If you reside outside of the US...then perhaps that is not considered acceptable depending on where you live. I know in So. Africa 'Colored' and 'black' are acceptable terminology for two different ethnic backgrounds.

 @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump Unless you're an 85 year old granny, IdleTime (and actually, you may be - seems to be the demo for the show) - you would know this.

 @IdleTime  @Mikhail XO  @hrstump I'm going to take a wild guess and assume he's aware of that. Are YOU aware that the term is seen in a very derogatory light? http://voices.yahoo.com/the-n-word-20-other-offensive-words-133873.html?cat=7

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#2 offensive words we can do without: Colored

It is more ignorant than insulting to use the word colored. When directed at a black person, it recalls a time when blacks were considered less than others were. Most people who use this word are well meaning, and should know that this word sends chills down the back of many black people."

 @Mikhail XO  @hrstump i didn't watch the show.  so blame on jason's reporting for my mistake.

mikhail, yes there's a term "colored people".  i didn't make it up.