Associated Press: Jeff Archuleta Banned from Rehearsals on American Idol

Saturday, May 10, 2008, 01:23 AM | David Archuleta

Jeff Archuleta

David Archuleta’s dad loses ‘American Idol’ backstage pass (AP)

[quote] Backstage meddling has caught up “American Idol” favorite David Archuleta’s dad, who’s been banned from rehearsals, a person working for the TV talent contest said Friday.

Jeff Archuleta was told this week by producers that he can no longer join 17-year-old son as David as he prepares for the show, the person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press. The person wasn’t authorized to comment publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. [/quote]

This story is now being confirmed by the Associated Press.

WTF

My blog got burned by this ’stage dad’ story, and now it’s turned out to be true. GODDAMMIT.

To all of you David Archuleta fans who nailed me to the stake for merely reporting this before, you owe me. It was only fair reporting. And now, it’s true.

You guys have no idea how this issue with Jeff and then the fans turning against me has really hurt me in a deep way. All I want is the best for David. I’m as upset as you are by this news.

I will still do my best to get the vote out for David in the next few days. We’ve been through this for so long, we’ll see it through to the very end. I am still very much looking forward to the summer tour and hopefully meeting some of you. Thanks.

(Time to sleep…)

DAVID ARCHULETA FOR THE %$#@ WIN!

451 Comments for Associated Press: Jeff Archuleta Banned from Rehearsals on American Idol

1

We’re still behind David A.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 1:28 am
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There is no way David A. could be such a polished performer at just 17 without having at least one stage parent. Honestly I’m really not surprised. I feel bad for the poor kid, and it sucks that this whole mess had to screw up your blog, Rickey. It’s just a terrible situation for all involved…

By the way, I think that picture just sums up the entire thing very nicely.

chad5871 on May 10, 2008 at 1:33 am
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no freaking way!!!! david might pull out of the competition if this true….
dang it!!

xoxo
gossipgirl

gossipgirl on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 am
4

Good. Better late than never, I’d say.

Give the poor boy a chance to grow up!

Docridas on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 am
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Why would someone not vote for him because of his Dad?

His fan base is solid. Those who say they weren’t going to vote for him because of this already had their minds made up.

They should sent his mother out to Hollywood and Jeff should stay home.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 1:35 am
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I agree with coca.

But… WE’RE BEHIND DAVID ALL THE WAY. He will do beyond amazing this week and blow us all away without his dad — I know it!

I was really hoping the stage dad stories weren’t true, but it is what it is. (But if the producers pull off a shocking elimination next week, I won’t be the only angry DA fan, that’s for sure!)

GO DAVID!

lovingangels on May 10, 2008 at 1:38 am
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I see it as a blessing in disguise. If David succeeds without his father it will be a character builder.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 1:39 am
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This can’t be true! Please tell me this isn’t true! Our poor David! I was so excited for him all day, and now this. Please don’t give up on our boy!!

Check out this website from DA’s interview at a radio station. They ask him about the rumors about his dad. David says that he doesn’t know how they got started and his dad is awesome. If this was all true, would David have answered this way? This is all so upsetting!

http://www.949zht.com/main.html

Click on David Archuleta visits ZHT! Photos | Video

th118 on May 10, 2008 at 1:39 am
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I see this as a way to undermine him in the competition for whatever reason. I will say this. Without DA in this competition, I would have turned off this show weeks ago. Forget this. David is great. vote, vote, vote.

collegemom on May 10, 2008 at 1:42 am
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Attention all ANGELS: the competition will do anything to try to get to our DA, since they know he is the best and cannot be beat. Lets all ignore the haters and VOTE like mad on Tuesday night. This bullcrap story will only make us vote harder for him this week, right ANGELS ??

Mrs. Archie on May 10, 2008 at 1:43 am
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i hope you get the apologies you deserve, rickey. every one of them. these reports are so unfortunate.

sprout on May 10, 2008 at 1:44 am
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I’m very upset right now.

But after I sleep this through, we’ll regroup over the weekend.

YES, WE WILL VOTE EVEN HARDER.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 1:45 am
13

somebody needs to clear this up fast!!

xoxo
gossipgirl

gossipgirl on May 10, 2008 at 1:47 am
14

Rickey — and everyone. We like David because of who he is and because of the singer he is, and this has nothing to do with his dad or what we think about the performances or why we vote for him.

So he has a stage dad. So what. I’m voting for HIM. Not for anyone else. I couldn’t care less about his dad, if at all I’m just sad for DA he has to go through this.

Shimrit_fs on May 10, 2008 at 1:47 am
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it was said on another thread that the article got pulled from tmz? anyone know if this is true? rickey?

rousie on May 10, 2008 at 1:48 am
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I agree with coca at #5. It’ll be interesting to see how this all pans out – Tuesday and beyond. I only wish good things for DA and I hope he can take stock of this situation once the show is over (regardless of the outcome) and realize what is best for HIM and not what he feels his parents, his friends, his teachers or whomever else might want.

hessilou on May 10, 2008 at 1:48 am
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The Associated Press got a confirmation from a separate source different from TMZ, so it’s moot.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 1:49 am
18

who are the associated press? i’m sorry, i just really really want this to not be true? not david, he is so precious

rousie on May 10, 2008 at 1:50 am
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Pretty much the only time i will leave a comment in this thread.

Whether its true or not

I’ll stand by DA no matter what

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 1:50 am
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by the way rickey, while i have you here, thank you soooooooooooo much for all of your coverage and support, it really feels like a community here, i live in vancouver canada and sometimes feel a little lonely in my david love

rousie on May 10, 2008 at 1:51 am
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yeah is associated press even reliable?
ugh!

gossipgirl on May 10, 2008 at 1:53 am
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Let’s just get on with our support of David and not waste energy on this stuff. If it’s true, then David will work it out with his dad. They will get through this and DA will keep doing the amazing singing he’s already done so far. I believe in DA’s capability of arranging songs, etc. by himself…he’s a true artist. He’s done an amazing job so far of showing that he’s ready for what might lie ahead…the good and the bad. Just listen to the questions they threw at him on the radio and TV interviews in Utah today and how he answers with such maturity.

I’m so proud of David!! He’s showing us what a true American Idol is made of.

fan4idol on May 10, 2008 at 1:53 am
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I’m upset because this is now happening to David Archuleta.

I’m doubly upset because I was the subject of HATRED from the fans a few weeks ago for reporting on this. People called me a non-fan! People wrote that I was trying to destroy David Archuleta by writing about this.

And then now, it’s true.

I’m still a fan and I always have been. I love David Archuleta. I don’t care about any of his cousins, friends, his voice coach, or whoever the other “super-fans” are trying to get close to.

I want David Archuleta to win American Idol. Just him.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 1:54 am
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I hate this. If anything, it just makes me want to vote for David even harder. He deserves this so much.

kwat11 on May 10, 2008 at 1:56 am
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I’m not getting the hysteria.
It’s a good thing they are forcing David to rely on hisi own intestinal fortitude.

Enough with the Daddy hand holding.
Did Paris Bennett or Jordan Sparks have their parent s hovering about?

His Dad will still be there to advise him. He just can’t come back stage.

It’s a good thing.

CUT THE TIES THAT BIND

IT”S INDEPENDENCE DAY

WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH THE TOUGH GET GOING.

DJAFTMFW

coca on May 10, 2008 at 1:57 am
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im really hoping its not true because his dad being banned will affect david big time! and it will affect his performance!!
oh boy…. im losing it!!

xoxo
gossipgirl

gossipgirl on May 10, 2008 at 1:58 am
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If he can’t do it on his own then maybe he doesn’t deserve the title.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:00 am
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The Associated Press is the single most reliable news agency in all of the USA, if not the entire world. It owns over a thousand newspapers, both local and national, as well as most broadcast television/radio news, and is the main source of press in America. So, uh, yeah, it’s pretty damn accurate.

Take heart, Archies. I seriously doubt this is going to affect the competition in any way. Casual viewers don’t bother looking up contestants online, and even if they did, why would they withhold votes from Archuleta just because he has a crappy father? It might even buy him sympathy votes. And Archie fans will just vote harder for him.

Demisquirrel on May 10, 2008 at 2:02 am
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Exactly Demi.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:02 am
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If this is true, how AI do this to David, at this point of the show? Why would they want to hurt out LN like this? Couldn’t they just deal with the dad for 2 more weeks (not even). David is the most amazing singer left and I couldn’t bare to see him lose or get eliminated this week. The thought of that really scares me! If that happens, I am definitely not watching AI again in the future! I am so sad!

th118 on May 10, 2008 at 2:03 am
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I hate this.

And poor Archie.

And what if AI really rigged and still want to kick Archie as we would vote harder like hell?

I’m with rickey, i only want Archie win this whole thing.

David Archuleta! Behold and be strong!

inasina on May 10, 2008 at 2:03 am
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coca – 100% agreed. David Archuleta is trying to become a huge artist. Having his father dog him every step of the way is only going to hinder his evolution as a singer. Will it be tough for him in the beginning? Absolutely, but it’s only going to help him grow into a better performer and a better musician. He needs to step out of his father’s influence and discover who he truly is, both musically and personally.

Demisquirrel on May 10, 2008 at 2:04 am
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Who gives a shit about Associated Press?
I only believe whatever comes out from the NYT times sorry. These journalist needs to get a freakin life. LEAVE ARCHIE ALONE!!!

Xenophilius on May 10, 2008 at 2:05 am
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Shimrit #14, I absolutely agree with your comments. Stage dad or not, it does not change the way I feel about David Archuleta. DAFTELW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:05 am
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So many kids have parents who are very involved in their lives. Soccer, basketball, debate, the arts. There are always parents helping, prodding, guiding. Some get a little too intense. This is not a new thing in life. Every parent sees it in others and sees some of it in themselves. David and the other idols have now become tabloid fodder as usual. David is a very grounded kid. He will do his part and we must do our part to be positve. Supportive links onto other sites, vote, vote, vote and encourage other fans to vote as usual. That is all we have control over. Parents who push with too much love and hope for the best for their kids are nothing new and we all grow up and figure out how to manage our parents. Let’s keep the goal in site – DA’s love of singing and HIS hope to have a great career and the joy he has in it. VOTE FOR DAVID.

collegemom on May 10, 2008 at 2:06 am
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Xeno-I agree. Why do they have to keep picking on Archie? He just had an amazing day. Let him enjoy and win this thing! He is the only one who deserves it!

th118 on May 10, 2008 at 2:07 am
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wow rickey you havent slept yet. cool.
yeah i agree with you. david’s dad isn’t as nice as his looking

Semy on May 10, 2008 at 2:08 am
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Casual viewers don’t bother looking up contestants online, and even if they did, why would they withhold votes from Archuleta just because he has a crappy father? It might even buy him sympathy votes. And Archie fans will just vote harder for him.

Demisquirrel on May 10, 2008 at 2:02 am
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My sister loves LN but she doesn’t follow what’s going on. If I don’t tell her she doesn’t have a clue. And she is more representational of the average viewer then I am.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:08 am
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gossip girl, AP is reliable. It is one of the biggest syndicated press groups along with Reuters and Agence France Presse.

If all these reports are true, and now that the AP has picked it up I would believe it, then DA fans should find this good news. In a way, it ought to relieve pressure from him coming from his father. The negative side would be that this might shake him a little bit and might cause some problems in that regard. For instance, it would appear that the line from “Beautiful Girls” was inserted in the song without clearance from AI. That would be a real negative because it means that Jeff is messing with the DA’s songs post-rehearsal. And since it is being confirmed that the story is true, it gives credence to the TMZ report about Jeff also messing with the other contestants.

I have read somewhere that he does have both his dad and a vocal coach with him so maybe the vocal coach can calm him down.

I am sure that DA fans will continue to support him no matter what. Do all pray for him that he will be able to regroup and maintain his cool.

Finally, Rickey, though this vindicates you, I am sure that it is also very frustrating for you. I believe that in the end this will all turn out for the best. Keep on keeping on. Your blog makes many people happy.

sleepyinsomniac on May 10, 2008 at 2:08 am
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the best thing that can happen to both Archie and this show is for him to be eliminated.

Think about it.

Manola on May 10, 2008 at 2:09 am
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Guys!!!

It is still all about David A!!! HE…not his dad is who we all fell in love with. His voice, passion, and kindness!!!

I have a dad whom others would say is controlling…even I would agree. BUT…he is that way because he LOVES me and wants the BEST for me.
He pushes me on to greatness in ways that I could never have been by myself.

Others may have looked at him as being a pain in the &&s…but it is just who he is. His personality.

I am hoping that Jeff may be a similar personality to my dad. A strong person who may be controlling and forceful but does it in the best interest of his son…out of love. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt as I know that was the truth behind my story.

GO DAVID A FTW!!!!!

marly on May 10, 2008 at 2:10 am
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I thoght about it.
And I fail to see the good.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:11 am
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manola,
what do you mean?

Semy on May 10, 2008 at 2:11 am
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David WANTS to win, so it is not going to matter that his father is banned from rehearsals. He will rise above it people, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. This is actually going to be a GOOD thing. GO DAVID JAMES…YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:11 am
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Fe gets it.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:13 am
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We’re his fans. Our job is to vote for him, no matter what. HE wants to be the next American Idol, and we’re supporting his ambitions.

lovingangels on May 10, 2008 at 2:13 am
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I just hope this does not have a negative effect on David this week and next (since we know he will make it to the top 2). I just want him to stay focused and concentrate on singing his songs well. He also needs to stay relaxed since he always looks so tense on stage. This situation isn’t going to help him do all that.
I just want what best for him!

th118 on May 10, 2008 at 2:14 am
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Oh rickey! These trolls are attacking us!
Maybe they’re BORED, come on! they cant barely even fill they’re own thread..haha

Xenophilius on May 10, 2008 at 2:14 am
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#30-No – no waiting 2 weeks. You mess with AI’s legal standing and cost them money? Oh HELL no. You are GONE.

hessilou on May 10, 2008 at 2:14 am
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Can anyone throw something towards the AI stage if there really an announcement that Archie get booted this coming wednesday?

Eggs, bottles, s***, anything!

inasina on May 10, 2008 at 2:16 am
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The trolls are on ignore.

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:17 am
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I hope all this matter wont affect any Archu’s performances next week. I am really scared to death.

Please Archie kick the show’s a**!!!!

DAFTW…!!!!

inasina on May 10, 2008 at 2:18 am
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hessilou

Keep Dreaming buddy! haha

Xenophilius on May 10, 2008 at 2:18 am
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Inasina;
After all this If for some crazy reason Archie gets voted off next week then it will be obvious that show is really rigged so I don’t think TPTB want to this especially in this stage of competition.

SAM1346 on May 10, 2008 at 2:18 am
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SAM1346, hope so!!!!!!

It’s just i’m still gushing all over for Paula’s choice, her comment about Archu on the radio (ok i admit i’m a bit wrong for the words “tired” – but still she said that she didnt agree with Randy and Simon last tuesday), and all the stage dad from hell.

Mama Lupe, is there anything you can do?

inasina on May 10, 2008 at 2:21 am
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TPTB trying another “melinda doolittle” scenario????

if yes, this will backfire on them!!!!

AMERICA vote!!!!

DAFTMFW!!!!

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 2:21 am
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Xenu and the others, please this is serious.

You will realize the magnitude of this story when it hits the major news outlets tomorrow morning.

Like many of you, I am very, very upset, but I WILL NOT STOP SUPPORTING DAVID ARCHULETA.

I think that retaliating against those you feel are “trolls” does nothing to help the situation. It will not unban Jeff Archuleta.

Just ignore the negative comments if you have to. I will have a “fun and play” post for you tomorrow.

Thanks.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 2:22 am
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I predict AI will see a huge ratings drop if Archie is voted off. They NEED the 2 Davids in the finals, to boost ratings. This is my first full season of watching, having only sporadically watched the past 6 seasons. Archie goes, I go. He deserves to be in the finals. For heavens sake people, Syesha has been in the bottom 3 and bottom 2 so many times, I’ve lost count. David has not been on the hot seat. Tell me WHY he would be voted off Wednesday? No, AI NEEDS this, the battle of the Davids, polar opposites. It would be a HUGE ratings success. The next TEEN SUPERSTAR with the smooth and crystal clear vocals vs the polished rocker. It’s brilliant. C’mon people, settle down, IT WILL BE OK….Archie WILL be in the finals.

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:23 am
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inasina;
Is there any link for Paula’s interview, i couldn’t see anywhere.

SAM1346 on May 10, 2008 at 2:23 am
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Let me clarify – I want DA to stay in the competition. I want him in the finals. I want this kid to be a big thing. My point was that AI had every right – if the story is acurate – to remove his father from influencing DA’s lyrics if and when it had legal and monetary implications. They are not going to stand by and allow anyone to hurt their integrity or their wallets.

hessilou on May 10, 2008 at 2:24 am
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Let’s be thankful this is hitting on Saturday. It’s slowest news day of the week with the smallest readership.

People have their real lives to attend to.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:27 am
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hessilou,

I actually disagree that they’re going to throw him out because of the “Beautiful Girls” thing. In general, I still believe that TPTB generates more money from him that what it is costing them to pay in terms of royalties for the song.

In the end, I still believe it would come down to voting. So vote for your favorite is the answer to all of this.

sleepyinsomniac on May 10, 2008 at 2:27 am
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I was very, very impressed with the way DA handled all his press interviews. He was articulate and funny. The only time he was caught off guard was when he was shocked by how many people were at Gateway (or whatever that place was called). He is one smart guy.

collegemom on May 10, 2008 at 2:28 am
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I have been looking for the Paula interview as well. I would really like to hear it.

I remember her saying nice things about David’s performances on Tues. She told him that LMT was her favorite of his. She just want DC to win so badly.

DAFTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

th118 on May 10, 2008 at 2:31 am
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Calm down everybody. David A can handle this. Let’s show our faith by voting like hell for him. That will discourage AI from messing with the votes and declaring another contestant the winner.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 2:32 am
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the last time i really approved of americas choice for ai was when carrie won…all my favorites lost….katherine macphee, melinda doolitle, diana digarmo…

DAFTMFW!!!!!!

we have to think positive!!!!!

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 2:32 am
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Oh, those losers who tore you down, Rickey, owe you more than an apology. Fools.

It’s 2am and it’s already front page Yahoo news.

jeffreychrist on May 10, 2008 at 2:32 am
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A part of me believes TPTB wanted to get Jeff Archuleta removed from backstage for a while. They just needed an air tight reason that he would not be able to fight.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:33 am
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I’m not saying they have or will kick him out – just saying that I would understand. TV studios actually rarely take big risks when is comes to contractual agreements or money.
Blah!
In the end – it’s a singing competition and it’s down to 3 people. They are all amazing and I’m hoping for a friggin fantastic Tuesday.

hessilou on May 10, 2008 at 2:33 am
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I need to go to sleep. But how can I sleep with all of this happening! I just love DA and I hope that he is ok. I wonder if he even knows about all of this. Poor baby!

th118 on May 10, 2008 at 2:34 am
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I completely agree with Noel!

DAFTMFW!

lovingangels on May 10, 2008 at 2:34 am
72

At least it’s not on Drudge.

Yet.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:35 am
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This does not change my support of David. I am voting for him not his dad. While his dad has involvement in his song arrangement and maybe overall performance, David’s singing talent and his personality, which I admire, are all his own. Nothing shall take away that from him.

bike2tilden on May 10, 2008 at 2:36 am
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#63 Collegemom. I agree with you. It’s amazing how well he can express himself. He handled the interview like a mature person. He deserves to be the American Idol.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 2:39 am
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My first time to write. Since David is only 17 yrs ,he’s still required by law to have a parent present wherever he’s at. He’s not an adult yet. Same requirement for schooling. They’re required a few hours a day to continue education. So , to be banned from rehearsals …maybe not that serious. I know Rickey is so good to us fans , so sincere. So I’m just merely stating a fact that is required by law , when non-adults are involved. I know how media can be manipulated sometimes , even AP.

vilmagardiner on May 10, 2008 at 2:39 am
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you’re right noel. we should calm down….but remember guyz..no rocker has won AI, maybe TPTB wants one!!!!

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 2:39 am
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Maybe TPTB want LN to win but they wanted to flex their muscles before signing on the dotted line, letting Mr. Archuleta know who the boss is.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:44 am
78

I was wondering – why do we know David Cook’s songs and not David’s or Syesha’s? Or have I just missed it?

collegemom on May 10, 2008 at 2:45 am
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Oh, and fyi, in six months DA will be “the boss” (18).

collegemom on May 10, 2008 at 2:46 am
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He’s not required to have a parent present. He’s required to have a guardian, whom AI can appoint.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 2:46 am
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This changes nothing. I will still support David A to the end and beyond.

To DA fans, pray for David and his family. You all keep saying to be positive, so take it as a blessing in disguise. Better that this came out this week than 4 days before the final (Yes we are going to make sure he gets to top 2.). This way he has time to adjust and do whatever he needs to do. Have faith in David people, he is stronger than you think. Being the person he is, I’m sure he would only see the good side of the situation. It’s also time we fans start treating him as a young mman.

All we can do is vote vote vote! and getting more people to vote and vote some more.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 2:47 am
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I feel this will actually result in more votes. Nothing like adversity to bring the BEST out of people. Archie can and WILL overcome this. Not only will he crush the competition, he will annihilate them.

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:47 am
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I feel this will actually result in more votes. Nothing like adversity to bring the BEST out of people. Archie can and WILL overcome this.

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:48 am
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aorry for the double post, ugh!

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:48 am
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hessilou,

yeah, i get what you’re saying. I think Jeff maybe just overplayed his hand there with inserting that line. Maybe he forgot about intellectual property rights and how it might just cause problems for him.

Cheer up DA fans. This is not nearly the end. Remember, the power to keep him safe is in your hands so continue to vote. All of these other things shouldn’t distract you. If we were in the 1950s we wouldn’t know nearly this much about the people we listen to on the radio. So all of these shouldn’t really matter in the end. After all, the problem IS JEFF and NOT DAVID.

sleepyinsomniac on May 10, 2008 at 2:48 am
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I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m going to take my cue on this from David. If he chooses to sing, I’ll support him. If he leaves the competition, I’ll support him. If he’s voted out–I’ll still support him and buy everything he ever records. And he will have a career in music, it’s in his soul.

His father, however, is a jerk. I’m so mad at him I could spit on him. He knew about all the news reports. He willfully went against the rules. I think this will be really big. I have no idea where it’s going, but I’m heartsick.

And I really feel for Rickey. Let’s please refrain from speculation and just wait for things to unfold. If we stick to facts instead of beliefs and tea leaf reading, we can stay together as a community to support David however he needs us to.

--bianca on May 10, 2008 at 2:49 am
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To me, being removed due to backstage “meddling” sounds more like he was interferring maybe with producers, the show in general, or other contestants. Not just being pushy with his own son. That to me, would be their own business between them. But to be removed for meddling, sounds more like his getting in the way of the normal order of things.

jonidepp on May 10, 2008 at 2:53 am
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Excuse me, Bianca, we know nothing. Seems like a lot of pot-stirring going on here. David wants to win this for his fans and for his love of music. David wants to sing. David does sing. It does not matter where his father is sitting. We are in no position to understand anything and certainly not based on people trying to make money off all the idols by sensationalizing things. Paulagate – now there was something we actually SAW OURSELVES.

collegemom on May 10, 2008 at 2:54 am
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Well said sleepyinsomniac…and with that I’m off to bed.

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 2:56 am
90

Rickey. Yes, I will ignore trolls on this site. I’ve always supported and agreed with you. But,
I can not ignore negative publicity and vicious attacks against David A outside of here. Those attacks must be neutralized because they are so visible to the general public. Negative publicity sticks like barnacles that people will remember. That tendency can move people not to vote for DA.

To those who are interested, please see my response #107 at TMZ after they called DA a cry baby and made reference to his missionary position.

I thought TMZ erased my post. They posted it after getting my email confirmation.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 3:06 am
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Not only will he crush the competition, he will annihilate them.

thats good FE!!!!

DAFTMFA!!!!!!!!!!!!

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 3:06 am
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I agree with Bianca — there are too many reports now to ignore, and the Associated Press is a reliable news source. Jeff A is a creep. This could be a good thing for David long-term…he will realize his dad is sabotaging him and he needs to make his own way.
I cannot imagine, at this point, that there is any way that 19 would want to sign DA until he turns 18. Poor Archie

AngelFire on May 10, 2008 at 3:07 am
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collegemom, I probably didn’t express it well, but that’s my point. We know hardly anything. We can’t just spin endless scenarios based on what we think people are thinking or myths about the powers that be. Hard as it is, we just have to wait.

--bianca on May 10, 2008 at 3:08 am
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I cannot believe the timing of this! Elsewhere on the web, people are blaming JA for Cook’s “sadness” and Jason’s “stress”. Please.

I, for one, believed Naomi Judd’s comments because why else would she say things about JA if they weren’t true? Yes, Rickey, you suffered a lot. It’s sad but now the story seems to be verified.

But if JA is so horrible, why did AI show him at all last week? I remember thinking we hadn’t seen him in awhile, and then, bingo, there he is. Did the cameraman not get the memo that JA = poison?

DAFTMFW!

lucyricardo on May 10, 2008 at 3:12 am
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lucyricardo, people who are building stories around this story are doing just what we need to avoid doing. They don’t know that, they just want to think it.

--bianca on May 10, 2008 at 3:17 am
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#80 Coca. AI can not legally appoint a guardian for David A. That can only happen if Jeff Archuleta lost or gave up his parental rights and the Courts appointed AI as his guardian. I hope this puts your mind at ease.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 3:19 am
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collegemom-to answer your question,

David Cook is singing First Time I Ever Saw Your Face by Roberta Flack (Simon’s Choice)

Syesha is singing If I Aint Got You by Alicia Keys (Randys Choice)

Archie is singing And So It Goes by Billy Joel (Paula’s Choice)

David Cook also announced by himself on a radio interview friday morning that he was going to do The World I Know by Collective Soul (contestant choice)

Indomass on May 10, 2008 at 3:20 am
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Noel: This is not negative publicity for negative publicity’s sake. As I said, it’s a serious issue. Nobody has ever been banned for ANYTHING in the 7 years of American Idol. We are not reporting this because we want to bring down David Archuleta, we are reporting this because it happened. There’s a huge difference.

When TMZ or Vote for the Worst report it with a heavy dose of snark, go ahead and post your objections there. I’ve just expressed my disappointment in all this. I’m also not poo-poo’ing it like some of you that this is “another negative story on David because they can’t think of anything else”. Denial is liberating, but c’mon.

Let’s just acknowledge that Jeff Archuleta screwed up, and now ironically, his son is going to pay for it. Jeff Archuleta will not be in rehearsals for THREE SONGS — when he’s always been at David’s side for support all this time. You think that won’t affect David? Seriously? Let’s just be realistic here. In many interviews he has said that he collaborates with his dad. Well, now, on one of the biggest nights on the show, he’s on his own with the voice coach.

Yes, I will rally the troops this weekend to keep on voting for David because of David, but I am not going to sit here and say that this is not a serious situation.

I really should sleep.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 3:21 am
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@noel

youre right, that post at TMZ will surely be a positive thing for DA..seeing him cry, surely made me a bigger fan of him

DAFTMFA!!!!!

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 3:21 am
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Rickey–I know you are worried…please get some rest!

Indomass on May 10, 2008 at 3:23 am
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Well said Rickey.

--bianca on May 10, 2008 at 3:23 am
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@rickey

now im really scared for DA, not having his father at his side during the preparations for top 3, its a big deal, specially with that BJ song….can u really sleep??????

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 3:24 am
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Wow the mood changes in the last 12 hours are terrifying.
I agree that it is sad that the situation has turned out this way, but we all knew that there was a possiblity, however small, that Jeff was (for lack of a better word) meddlesome and interfering.
This doesn’t make Jeff a horrible person or father. I actually believe he isn’t, judging by how well David turned out and how much David loves him. But clearly he overstepped his boundaries in this instance and like coca and demi have all said-it might really be a good thing that he is no longer on David’s case 24/7.
David is a big boy. A strong and determined one also. I know he will rise above this if he wants to win. All we need to do is to stand by him and take him there. Anyone or anything else is inconsequential at this point.

ellykat on May 10, 2008 at 3:28 am
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Further to my #96. Jeff Archuleta has not lost his parental rights over David. If he had, he would also be banned from participating in David’s affairs. A Court appointed guardian would take over. Maybe they’d even avoid acknowledging and thanking him for being his father.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 3:29 am
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And go get some sleep rickey! Sleep is curative and healing.

DAFTELMFGDW!

ellykat on May 10, 2008 at 3:30 am
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I would be interested to see what sort of statement will be released by the Fox or his family with regards to this.

It will be a concerning matter if DA will not have his usual support system. But worrying will not help us. We can only channel it positively by increasing our support for him. We can only believe in him and his capabilities.

Yes Rickey, just rest up. We cannot dwell too much on such matters, since we will only get down on ourselves. These may be even more trying times for David, but as his supporters, we should ensure that we become strong for him. We have to, and we will be there for him.

I pray that these things will be resolved soon.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 3:33 am
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I think, for all who are praying people, that this would be a good time to do just that.

--bianca on May 10, 2008 at 3:36 am
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ellykat #103

I agree. Being in AI, DA is growing up…unfortunately, the hard way. But i know this has not, and will not break him. We just have to make sure though, that we will always have his back.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 3:38 am
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Give it some perspective, people, this is just a competition in two weeks time, it will be done, the winner will be the winner, yeah Jeff maybe the horrible stage Dad, but am sure David loves him, and Jeff loves his son as well, maybe he has an obsession with superstardom, so he is pushing David to be one. But at the end of the day, family should be more important that fame, fortune, and the AI title! It seems complicated now because the competition is mad and David is not the front-runner, but hopefully everything settles down, and the family love is preserved, that is more important than making the Boy Diva a superstar!

idoliseDJ on May 10, 2008 at 3:38 am
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You know what? I’m actually looking forward to DA’s performances on Tuesday. I have the utmost confidence that Archie can give us a polished, professional performance (alliteration ftw!). I’m just eager to see how he’ll be singing without his father hounding him. I think that we’ll be seeing a much more relaxed, confident, and poised David Archuleta on stage, and I think that his songs will be better than ever. He doesn’t need his father to help him become a star because he already is one, and now he has the freedom to show us who he really is as an artist.

Demisquirrel on May 10, 2008 at 3:38 am
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Rickey. You’re misunderstanding me. I don’t care about whatever negative publicity DA’s father
brings. I’ve said in my previous posts that I’m behind David and we must vote like hell for him. I also said David can handle AI’s decision about his Dad. I responded to TMZ’s negative spin about David and others. I can influence those. I have absolutely no control over his Dad so I won’t bother.` .

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 3:39 am
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count me in bianca.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 3:39 am
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The whole thing is just so sad. If it turns out not to be true, sad for whoever decided to start such a story. And heartbreakingly sad for LN if it’s true. I guess I need to take ellykat’s advice for Rickey and get some sleep too.

lucyricardo on May 10, 2008 at 3:44 am
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I’ve been reading this blog for a long time, but have never commented. However, I feel I must at this time because of an experience I had tonight that may shed some light on this matter of David’s dad. I attended the Homecoming celebration for David at Murray High and then had box seats at the Jazz/Lakers game where David sang the national anthem. He and some of his family left a couple of minutes before half-time, but his dad and a few other family members stayed and moved up to one of the boxes near ours.

When we were leaving, we ran into his dad and one of the people who helps with some of his song arrangements (Richard Parkinson– he did the live version of “Think of Me”). I had never met either of them (though Richard turns out to be a friend of a friend) but they were extremely generous with their time and talked to a few of us for nearly 40 minutes about David and his music– until they kicked us out of the building to close up. Mostly, I was just “geeking out” about specific notes or runs or lines in his songs and asking who came up with the ideas for them. He admitted that sometimes they were his ideas and sometimes David’s.

I was gushing about the Sean Kingston line and what a brilliant additon that was to “Stand By Me” and he did mention that they got into a lot of trouble over that because it’s considered a second song if you add something like that, but he thought they had changed the lyrics enough for it to not be a problem.

Mostly though, I want to reassure everyone that David comes up with plenty of great ideas himself and that from what I could see, his father loves him very much and wants what’s best for him. He believes David has a God-given gift and he just wants to share it with everyone and that people who are “in tune” with that idea can feel that connection when David sings.

If people think he’s meddling it’s because he feels strongly about the kind of sound (and remember, he’s a musician himself) the songs have. It’s like the difference between the studio versions and David’s live performances. He said they are constantly trying to make things fresher and more contemporary and I think you see that in the live versions, where they (Team David) have more control and prep time. I think he’s getting flak for being persistent and also for going to bat for his kid. People behind the scenes understandably want all the control, so they’re going to resent that. So, yeah, maybe he won’t be able to do that in rehearsals anymore (and maybe other past contestants haven’t had that help), but David will be okay. He has great taste and he wants to win.

As far as the photo from the Homecoming day goes, that was just a moment when the whole family was gathered around David and his dad was pointing to him when everyone cheered to show who the focus should be on. I was there and his dad wasn’t being a puppetmaster or anything. He loves his child and says he doesn’t worry about him at all– that fame won’t change him and that he “gets it” as far as what’s important in life. He has his head screwed on right. I also met his aunt and uncle and they were very, very nice as well. I feel guilty writing this at all because I told him I don’t post things or blog, but I feel like Jeff Archuleta has gotten a bad rap in the press and I thought it would be good to have the perspective of someone who has actually met him.

BK.angel on May 10, 2008 at 3:46 am
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now TMZ is picking on DA’s crying!!!!!

it will just give DA more fans!!!

DAFTMFA!!!!!

fluffysasha on May 10, 2008 at 3:49 am
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Good posts, mechanic, bianca, and Demisquirrel. #109 is so positive! I’m going to not worry and save my energy for dialing. It’s strange but this has almost pushed me into ODD (now mind you, I said “almost”!)
Good luck to all the top 3, especially the LN.

DAFTMFW!

lucyricardo on May 10, 2008 at 3:49 am
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BK: Thanks. That was well-written. And I do believe Jeff is looking after the best interests of his son.

I really hope that Fox just gave them a tap on the hand and a ‘don’t do it again’. But a ban is big news, and serious, so I think there is more to it. Fox doesn’t want him involved anymore with these song decisions.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 3:55 am
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BK.angel

Thank you so much for the post. Its very reassuring.

But is the addition of the line still an ongoing problem for them, or has it been settled already?

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 3:56 am
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And Rickey. I did not say the thing about DA’s dad is a negative publicity for publicity’s sake. I did not say it was not serious. Of course, it is. I conveyed the message for everyone to calm down, put our faith in David and vote for him like hell. We have control over voting.

I posted my response to negative publicity against David A here only to ask for assistance in posting outside of this site. I’ve admittred I am an illiterate in computers. I let my secretaries take care of anything that has to do with it.

I seldom post because I want to avoid disrupting the happy interchange here. I thought I would be more effective in answering vicious and unfounded criticisms against DA made from the outside.

{NOEL for the FT%$#@W! Thanks. — Rickey}

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 3:56 am
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BK.angel

Thank you very much for your post, finally a voice of reason! Agree whole heartedly with your thoughts, and support the Archuleta family 100%.

And ya, David does have great taste, he will be okay, and we believe he WILL WIN! Bravo….

Shelly on May 10, 2008 at 4:01 am
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Ohh Rickey! So sorry to hear all of this is happening. I hope you get apologies you deserve and more. Haven’t been watching or voting yet this season, but I will definitely work the phone lines next week. Hang in there!

Moe on May 10, 2008 at 4:05 am
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I am definitely disappointed in knowing about the painful truth. It is sad, but my high regard for David Archuleta has not diminished by one bit.

This is indeed bad news. But we have to rise above this somehow.

Rickey, I empathize with you.

rainbowskyway on May 10, 2008 at 4:05 am
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BK, just read your post. That was uplifting.

[I don't want to be fatalistic here. But AI is rigged. I hope the producers wouldn't do something fishy out of this news story (ie, i dread to type this - Archie's pre-finale exit).]

Whatever happens, I shall continue to be David’s adoring fan.

rainbowskyway on May 10, 2008 at 4:16 am
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I think the song was the final straw that’s why the ban was enforced, I think if it’s a “tap on the hand” it wouldn’t be a ban, he maybe a good person when you meet him randomly on his son’s concert, but it’s evident in his history that he wants his boy to win, and he did a lot of things along the way that irked a lot of people, hopefully this ban will help him more than anything else.

The boy diva will be what he will be, he will perform as he does every other week, with his charming choir vocalist voice and boy diva arrangements!

So vote, vote, vote, and vote!

idoliseDJ on May 10, 2008 at 4:18 am
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I’m not an Archie hater by any stretch of the imagination. But, I do think this issue is far more serious than some are making it. So, the solution is to vote harder for him? So, he can win the title,and, have more responsibility thrust upon his young 17 year old shoulders. This isn’t the first time this has come out. Naomi Judd reported this some time back, and, people glossed over it. She was, after all, one of the judges when he was on Star Search. So, yeah, she knew what she was talking about.

I think rather than vote more, and, give this kid the title, he needs some therapy. He’s going to need it in the future. I feel bad for a child whose parents are living their unfulfilled lives through their kids. I also sort of think that his dad thinks he has the next Donny Osmond on his hands. And, don’t forget, David has a year before he will be 18. I don’t think anything will change when he becomes legal. Dad will still be there pulling the strings.

I think this entire situation is sad, and, even sadder when most react with, we’ll vote harder. I’m not a fan of any of the 3 who are left, before any of you get your panties in a wad. I really don’t care who wins. My voting fingers officially retired when Jason left the building. So, I’m not saying any of this because I want someone other than David A. to win. I can say this as someone not invested in this child’s career.

I think by giving him the title, it will do more harm than good. What’s the next mountain daddy wants him to climb? He hasn’t even gone through puberty yet. I doubt he’s had any kind of a normal childhood. How quickly people forget the Michael Jacksons, and Britney Spears of the world. What tragic lives they’ve lived. To say it won’t happen to David would be a lie. None of us know the future. Michael Jackson came from a religious background too.

Annie1219 on May 10, 2008 at 4:23 am
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Oh there. I just read Rickey’s first thread on this story.

I shall echo Rickey’s plea:

NIGEL DON’T DO ITTTT!!!!

NIGEL PLEASE, PLEASE DON’T DO IT!

DON’T SEND DAVID HOME! IT’S SO UNFAIR!

I FOR ONE WILL BE DEVASTATED.

Many of us will.

rainbowskyway on May 10, 2008 at 4:23 am
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Rickey. You are welcome. Now, go to sleep. Everyone needs you to be rested and strong for yourself and DA.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 4:25 am
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Let’s give people second chances.

David is a gem, he has talent. It is a gift. Weaving up drama and fatalistic predictions out of human errors and past mistakes is like throwing this gift away and making malice triumph.

rainbowskyway on May 10, 2008 at 4:31 am
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on giving people second chances: i was pertaining to david’s dad.

LET US BE COMPASSIONATE EVERYONE, FAN OR NO-FAN!

The world needs COMPASSION.

COMPASSION PEOPLE, COMPASSION.

rainbowskyway on May 10, 2008 at 4:34 am
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Umm….RICKEY, you shouldn’t have posted this stuff. The Lunatic fans will burn you to a cross! TAKE IT DOWN….NOW!!!!!!!!!! FEAR for the crazies! lol

I’m kidding…..but seriously, you might have shot yourself in the foot. By tomorrow, it will be 400 posts with stupid banter.

But again….for the most part, I was kidding.

shadow25 on May 10, 2008 at 4:38 am
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hey everybody!! i am a newbie here! After reading all these sad posts about our little nugget, archie, i feel there is a need for cheering up. I saw this cover of the song for Archie “And So it Goes-Billy Joel” by Sara Gazarek. She sang to a soft piano accompaniment.It’s actually beautiful and haunting. I can visualize Archie singing this beautiful cover with his runs…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6xZRm_Ky6g

mackie on May 10, 2008 at 4:39 am
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BTW….IF this is true….good they banned David’s dad. It might be better if he gets to stand up for himself and show everyone he isn’t that dependent on his pops. Other than that, I Think TMZ or whatever might be giving David and his pops crap for no “real” reason. Jeff might just be getting a bad rap. THat being said, the dad reminds me of Jessica and Ashlee Simpson’s dad, Beyonce’s dad, AND to a lesser extent, the Jackson’s dad (Michael, Janet, and etc…) The way the media is portraying it.

shadow25 on May 10, 2008 at 4:40 am
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David Archuleta sings the National Anthem at the Jazz Game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR0tyxBO9o8

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 4:44 am
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TO EVERYONE,

IGNORE THE TROLLS. THEY ARE TRYING TO SHAKE AND WEAKEN OUR DETERMINATION IN SUPPORTING DAVID A. HE DOES NOT, REPEAT NOT, NEED THERAPY. ANYONE SUGGESTING IT IS BEYOND THERAPY.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 4:49 am
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Good to see you’re not a hater Annie.

johnny_canuck001 on May 10, 2008 at 4:54 am
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#33 Mechanic. Thanks for posting DA’s rendition of the National Anthem. That was great.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 4:59 am
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What I haven’t understood in all of this, is why people thought that this news would cause DA to lose fans? To me it seems like he would gain more b/c ppl would feel bad for him. *shrugs*

Anyways.. it’s sad that all of this turned out to be true. Poor kid.. he has enough stress with just being on AI… he doesn’t need an overbearing father putting even more on him.

Pallaton on May 10, 2008 at 5:08 am
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Everyone, relax. David is going to be fine. He is almost 18 and can take care of himself. He knows what he wants and knows where he wants to take his music. Go for it young man!

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 5:17 am
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Annie, i do understand where you are coming from, but we just have different perspectives on this one. I firmly believe that David was raised well by his family. Heck, i wish i was that good of a kid at 17. And i wish more 17 year olds would have a grounded, down-to-earth and humble attitude like him. In terms of therapy, he actually needs the least of it IMO. Confidence and self-esteem could have been his issues before, but this homecoming did a world of good for him as far as those two are concerned. Not to mention, he was VERY secure in his interviews during his stay in Utah.

And as i said earlier, now is the time for us to be united for David as his fans. David already said that he wants to win…and we are going to make it happen for him.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 5:17 am
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I agree Legolas, David will be fine.

Im just thinking that suppose this is all true, certainly the Archuletas would know about it (DUH), and this would certainly affect David and his family in the homecoming.

But my goodness, i’ve never seen him this happy. He just seems so comfortable and not bothered/preoccupied. That alone is enough reason for me to assure myself that David will be fine.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 5:25 am
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Mechanic – Thanks for the link! What a nice way to start my day.

Negative reports like this always makes people nuts and cause everyone to think the absolute worse. I feel that it’s probably exaggerated. These things usually are.

So what if JA can’t be with him in rehearsals. David will be fine. He’s been doing this for a long time and he’s more mature now and will handle it like a man.

David has loving parents and they want the best for him. That’s a good thing. Let’s focus on everything possitive now.

He’s going to be practicing his songs along with his voice coach and arranger. He’s a star.

Let’s stand by him and do everything we can to give him the crown.

I’m off to work now. Have a great day and, everyone… just turn on Da’s music.

Vikilee on May 10, 2008 at 5:27 am
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Mechanic:

Agree. I am so impressed with his interviews. He was so so relaxed and talkative, and happy. I’ve never heard him talk so much before lol. He was laughing so much. So different from the awkward David answering questions on the show.

I am upset, but not really worried. I think David will take it as a challenge and of course he is going to be all right.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 5:46 am
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hi,
i knew it! what a “suprise” david has a cash cow dad, but still varing im sure, i knew the rumors were true.y wud ne1 make em up?only in america as they say.(am i only the non american here???)and who DARE condemn rickey for such news of archuleta.we shud be thankful for the interwting, quick updated stories he brings us.all hail…………….rickey!!

nzkid18 on May 10, 2008 at 5:53 am
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Isn’t it odd that people who see others on a tv show, sing a couple of songs a week, do watered down interviews, supposedly know these people? You know nothing about them, other than what you see through your tv screen. You don’t know emotional issues any of them deal with, yet, you speak as though you know all about Archie’s psyche. You don’t. I see that he is a wholesome, young man, with some good morals, and, that I can appreciate very much.

I’m definitely not a troll by any stretch of the imagination. I just find it sad that people seem to know this kid, know what’s going on in his head and heart, just from watching him on tv. No one knows his secret fears, thoughts or anything else. Dont’ forget, he’s been groomed all his life for a moment like this.

And, if you want my personal opinion. Ignore VFTW. They love it when fans come over there to “set them straight.” They live for that kind of thing. So, if any of Archie’s fans have, or are thinking about posting there, you’ll just become their entertainment. Keep your fandom on positive blogs and message boards. You aren’t going to change their minds.

Annie1219 on May 10, 2008 at 6:05 am
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cash cow dad? I won’t go that far. We don’t know much. I think the media is exaggerating the truth, whatever it is. Let’s respect David and his family.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 6:08 am
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oh well… I think I’ll go to sleep now and wake up on tuesday.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 6:20 am
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Annie,

I dont claim to know everything about David. What i say is simply what i think of him, based on what i see on tv and the information from net.

But, aren’t you also guilty of what you claim by saying that he has been groomed all his life for this? That he needs therapy and all that because something is amiss? Your conclusions are also based on the same medium i’ve been exposed to. Its just that we view them differently (and i certainly know more about him than you do, just because im a fan of David, and hence seek more info about him)

For the record, i dont think you are a troll (i mean hope you’re not, hey i can only based it on the statements that you made). You just touched on a VERY sensitive topic. And you cannot expect his fans to back down their support at this crucial time.

But i have to agree with VFTW. The people there are quite an amusing bunch.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 6:29 am
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#99 Fluffysasha. You’re right. We can turn negative spins against DA that are made outside of this blog into a positive one.

Again, ignore the trolls. We just don’t watch DA sing. We do research and learn from people who knows DA personally. We know more about DA than the trolls who know absolutely nothing.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 6:34 am
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#139 Mechanic. Well said. I wish I was also as good as DA when I was 17.

Again, ignore the trolls’ psycho babble. They’re projecting from their own unhappy and bitter experiences when they were a teenager. They can’t bring themselves to believe DA could be that good. They’ll choke if they do.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 6:49 am
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First, let me tell Rickey that I apologize. You provide a place for us to meet and have a great time. I feel that you love David Archuleta as much as I do, and that’s saying something.

As for David’s dad: don’t kill me for my opinion, but I respect the guy. I sense that he is high strung, but also that he loves David and music, in that order. How often on the show do we hear Simon criticize (or praise) the contestants for the musical arrangement? I read that this week “Team David” had to insist that Bandzilla back off so David’s voice could shine. It was absolutely the right choice, and I’m going to treasure the songs forever.

Finally, this whole thing reeks of Idol manipulation to me. If AI producers knew about the planned change and told David’s dad, then why was David allowed to rehearse the song that way? (Backup singers weren’t surprised by the change, right?) It seems to me that they could have been more forceful than an e-mail.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 6:57 am
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kh:

Yes the timing is very suspicious. sigh.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 7:05 am
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David will still beat everyone, even with one vocal cord tied behind his back.

dh on May 10, 2008 at 7:13 am
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I’m a bit suspicious of the timing of this ‘news’. Personally, I think his father’s banishment might be the best thing that could have happened to David. He was losing a lot of credibility with the public with the rumors of his Dad choosing his songs, selecting his arrangements and apparently causing grief and stress for everyone backstage. While I’m sure this is upsetting for David, I’m also sure he saw this coming eventually. I’m exited to see what he’s capable of when left to his own devices. I think he could be stronger than ever.

The tremendous numbers at yesterday’s homecoming proved that he’s not a flash in the pan who will be soon forgotten. His interviews showed a very mature kid who insists he’s ready for whatever is thrown his way. For the first time, he convinced me that he truly is the happiest he’s ever been in his life and while I’d love to see him win (and know he will), I’m one of those who thinks he’s won already, regardless the outcome.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 7:14 am
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Yesterday was exhausting. From the highest of highs to the lowest of lows.

I am following the show more this season because of Archie — and I can see the manipulation. The TV guide poll is laughable. Why would online TV guide viewers vote 60% for Cook, when in every other poll Archie does at least as well? We’re not stupid. Someone in a COOK forum said that the show is connected to TV guide. They spin it how they want it.
I’m done with the show.

And I will be David Archuleta’s fan for the rest of my life. If Cook wins: great. He is very talented. If Syesha wins: great. She is very talented. I, for one, will be interested in the careers of Jason Castro and David Archuleta.

David A. will do well in his career and in his life, regardless of a win. (Which I want for him and will try to get for him.) His heart’s in the right place.

Archies? Join me today in remembering why we love him? He lifts us with his voice and spirit. That can’t change, and his dad or the show or the more despicable non-fans can’t and won’t change that.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 7:15 am
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My new anthem for David

Pearl Jam’s – Given to Fly

except for the “smoke in a tree” and one swear word.

Check it out on the tube.

Now, I have officially ODD’D – no more fansite until David’s journey is done.

thatboycansing on May 10, 2008 at 7:17 am
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Sheesh. I woke UP tired. Forgive my repetition.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 7:20 am
157

Felt my heart move down a few inches when I saw this!

Didn’t have time to read all the posts but yesterday i thought it was odd that Jeff was not seen with David for most of the day’s events.

I agree with Rickey… with one exception, it may bring him more votes as people realize what a fine young person he has turned out to be despite his dad.

AI will never reveal the actual vote totals that is what scares me, if Jeff is that bad they will not want to deal with him.

David loves and respects his father and may see his fathers behavior as normal so no surprise he doesn’t understand why people say what they say.

This also explains Paula’s lukewarm attitude towards David as of late, makes sense if she doesn’t like the dad.

fluffy10 on May 10, 2008 at 7:23 am
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This OT, but i yesterday, we had a total of over 2000 posts in covering David’s homecoming.

Is this the record Rickey? haha

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 7:27 am
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Note –

David loves his dad, the press is full of this stuff. All the great’s go through this.

My thought about given to fly is in regards to press.

thatboycansing on May 10, 2008 at 7:29 am
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#154 KH. Good morning. You’re right. But I want nothing less than an AI win for DA. I’m convinced
that we can help him achieve that. Yes, I think Femantle that owns AI is connected to TV Guide. Maybe as a partner or even the owner.

Noel on May 10, 2008 at 7:30 am
161

I should add that I still don’t believe Dad is as bad as we’ve been led to believe. While I do think that he is perhaps an over-involved, strict, protective father, it’s evident he loves his son and would move heaven and earth to provide him with every opportunity. *That’s* more than likely the problem tough. I also don’t believe David ‘fears’ him. He’s quick to defend his Dad and he’s seems like a pretty well-adjusted and sweet 17 yo kid to me. Of course, if you’ve grown up in such a disciplined environment, you consider it all normal.

I think it’s telling that it was Jeff’s blatant disregard for the song lyric addition as opposed to any alledged harrassment of David/others that was the last straw. It makes me think TPTB only grew concerned about any backstage drama when they suddenly found themselves paying out of pocket for Dad’s *mistakes*.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 7:34 am
162

The timing isn’t suspicious. It has been building through out the competition. You can only warn a person so many times before you have to just cut them off. This vidicates Naomi Judd, who many here trashed after she revealed the happenings at Star Search.

A talent like DA’s should already be signed by a major label. The kid would have been perfect for Disney and Hollywood Records. But, now I guess we know why DA remained unsigned, nobody wanted to deal with the dad.

As far as the rest of the competition. I doubt it will have much of an effect. For the most part the dedicated voters have chosen sides and casual voters are moved by the moment so a story like this doesn’t sway them. This would have been more damaging weeks ago, but now its just a bump in the road.

chessguy99 on May 10, 2008 at 7:34 am
163

Wow….

for a minute we dissapointed with Archu’s song choice of sweet caroline,

and then we get the most happiest and excitement moment in the world when Archu kicked everyone’s ass with his powerful performance of SBM and LMT,

and we are fully warm-hearted with Archu’e homecoming (within hours),

and with a blinking, we get all this sorrows, horror things of Stage Dad from Hell?

ODD with Archu really like riding a roller coaster dont ya think?

Believe me if something bad happened to Archu next week, American Idol will at least be doomed by Archu’s fans all over the world.

inasina on May 10, 2008 at 7:40 am
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I love it when I’m right!!!!! I, like Rickey, was one of the few people who just knew in their hearts that the Dadchuleta rumors were true. I was SO glad that NOW it’s official. DADCHULETA IS A STAGE DAD FROM HELL.

I only hope that the Angels don’t try to crucify Rickey a second time. Or me for that matter.

rayato on May 10, 2008 at 7:40 am
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it’s not like his dad won’t be in his room rehearsing with him…….banned from the rehearsal room means not much…his Dad will tell him what direction to take and he’ll take it, he just won’t be in there but will hear it later.

krighton on May 10, 2008 at 7:44 am
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(cont) and man this is just history repeating all over again.

Vore For The Worst is gonna have a field day with this (Archie’s the new VFTW pick).

I also wonder if they will affect him positively (he can do what he wants now) or negatively (w/o dad, he has no idea what to do).

rayato on May 10, 2008 at 7:44 am
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Alexis: that’s it. Dad loves David too much and would move heaven and earth to protect him and giv him the best. I guess it was much too much this time in regard to the add lyrics. jmo because I still don’t know what is really going on. I still believe David would be all right and may even welcome the chance to be independent. He just strikes me as that kind of person.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 7:47 am
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Regardless if this story is all true, half truth or whatever… like the Paula incident, this is another look at what is going on behind the curtain.

This should really have been all handled behind the scenes. This ruins the experience for the viewers.

There is no way I’m going through this BS next season.

Chloe Pillow on May 10, 2008 at 7:49 am
169

I won’t still sign your petition, that is a private matter of the Archuletas.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 7:51 am
170

Legolas – I agree. David needs to start cutting the apron strings. Now!

Chloe Pillow said:
“This should really have been all handled behind the scenes. This ruins the experience for the viewers.”

This ruins the experience for the viewer *and* David as a contestant. I agree this should all have remained behind the scenes. It’s unfair it’s leaked out to the public and will now influence voters. It could go either way: People will either support him more than ever or feel sorry for him and think he’s better off returning to Murray to get some real-life experience.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 7:58 am
171

IMHO, Jeff is to David the way Bill is to Hillary in this year’s election–A Detriment.

Indomass on May 10, 2008 at 7:59 am
172

me too. Last AI for me. besides there’s not gonna be another David Archuleta.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 7:59 am
173

Hey Rickey. You should totally make a list of all the Angels who tore you down during the burning and demand an apology being that you were right and you went through emotional distress because of them.

If they don’t apologize, you should totally ban them. It’s only fair.

rayato on May 10, 2008 at 8:00 am
174

Indomass, don’t forget Rev. Wright to Barack Obama.

rayato on May 10, 2008 at 8:02 am
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Poor David he hasn’t started his music career and there are people out to destroy an innocent soul.
This kind of publicity will eventually haunt the AI producers. After this season, I will quit viewing AI for good, had just enough of the trash.

zed on May 10, 2008 at 8:02 am
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Whew, this has really been quite a season so far. As for next season, maybe ill just look around, but i wont really consider any favorites.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 8:04 am
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I think many people agree with you zed, that’s why ratings are way down from last year.

PS: If everyone thinks it’s back now wait until this story hits TV (I predict Monday or Tuesday)

rayato on May 10, 2008 at 8:05 am
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I think many people agree with you zed, that’s why ratings are way down from last year.

PS: If everyone thinks it’s BAD now wait until this story hits TV (I predict Monday or Tuesday)

rayato on May 10, 2008 at 8:05 am
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rayato, am i sensing that you are happy that this is happening to David?

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 8:07 am
180

#173 – Stop being a provocateur and a vulture please.

zed on May 10, 2008 at 8:07 am
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i definitely sense some trolls in here trying to stir stuff up with the Angels. grr.

Indomass on May 10, 2008 at 8:11 am
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You know, you can really get a sense of a person after something like this happens. Some people who aren’t necessarily Archie fans come on to talk sense and show understanding. Others seem to be gleeful as they stir up emotions.

Jason was thrown under the bus this season, I swear. Now it seems to me as if TPTB are spinning truths and untruths to knock Archie. If I were Cook, I’d be embarrassed. He is talented and, should he win, it should be on his merit. I just *know* that’s the way he’d want it.

I don’t even know what to say about Syesha. Yes, she’s gorgeous and talented, but the Idol? Hmmm. That’d be one to talk about.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 8:17 am
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There’s a vulture? let me get my longbow.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 8:18 am
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LOL at #183. Go Shoot em up!

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 8:23 am
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#183 – Yes vultures hover around when they sense something foul and stinky in the air. Then they dive down to tear you apart until you are just bare bones.

zed on May 10, 2008 at 8:24 am
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This is what’s happening to American Idol this season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

Chloe Pillow on May 10, 2008 at 8:24 am
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Sorry but i only have my screwdriver

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 8:24 am
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and I think most people would think twice before saying anything bad about DC because, you know. So, it’s DA. I like DC and think he is very talented, but that factor does play a part.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 8:25 am
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Sorry if I offended anyone with that comment.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 8:30 am
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rayato, am i sensing that you are happy that this is happening to David?
—————————–
That’s the sense I’m getting too. I don’t think this is exactly something I’d be gloating over!

I still say it’s all blown wayyyy out of proportion. Can you seriously look at the kid and believe he’s been handed the short end of the stick in life? He’s sweet, wholesome, mannerly, talented, handsome, incredibly smart and planning for a back up career. That didn’t happen as a fluke. I hardly think he’s suffered.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 8:32 am
191

Well AI is digging its own grave for sure. The bad themes, manipulation, working the contestants much too hard, airing their dirty laundry in public.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 8:35 am
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Rickey,
I feel badly that you got a lot of wrath a few weeks ago when you first reported on this. But, in all fairness, at that time, it wasn’t really “official” news, more gossip than anything. So I do hope that you can sort of understand where some of his fans were upset at that time. Just because it was “confirmed” by the associated press this morning doesn’t suddenly make it wrong for his fans to get upset with you the last time. Because what if it was confirmed that the stories were completely false? Then it would have been okay that you were given a hard time? I don’t think it should matter.

Anyways… the fact is, it is true, and my heart goes out to David. I can’t imagine how he is feeling right now. I’m behind him 100%, nothing has changed and nothing ever will. I just pray that he is strong enough to overcome this emotionally to get through this competition with the strength that he always exhibited.

Virginia5 on May 10, 2008 at 8:39 am
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Alexys,

I agree. Its great that you mentioned that. Based on the testimonies of his relative and friends, I think DA has been living a happy life. Its funny that some people just keep on thinking that he’s been beaten to the ground or sumthin.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 8:42 am
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About the timing..
for some of you all to say it isn’t suspicious and that it’s been building up this entire season.. how do you know what TPTB are thinking and scheming?

First of all, the reason they got pushed over the edge was b/c of the SBM/sean kingston issue. Well, it appears they didn’t do a single thing to stop them from putting that in the song. I read somewhere that he sang it just like that in rehearsals, and that Nigel was seen to be completely unsurprised. If this was as big a deal as it was, why didn’t they stop him then and there? This is all just very weird to me.

So okay, maybe he is a stage dad. But maybe it’s not as bad as it is made to be, and this sbm/sean kingston thing was “setup” so that they would have a reason to throw david under the bus, with talk about david’s dad perfect fodder for the public to feed off and possibly increase their sagging ratings? Anybody thought of that? So yeah, I do find the timing very very suspect.

Virginia5 on May 10, 2008 at 8:44 am
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Too much sturm and drang for me.

I’ll come back for the happy thread.

GO DA! You had an AWESOME day yesterday!

GO Mr. Archuleta!

GO Utah Jazz!

dh on May 10, 2008 at 8:45 am
196

V5 Check your MSN email been sending back to you… not sure why you are not getting

fluffy10 on May 10, 2008 at 8:47 am
197

I must say that in taking in all of the big events yesterday in Murray, Utah, all I could see was this outrageously, genuinely, fabulously HAPPY DAVID ARCHULETA!

I’m not too worried that he’s “suffering” at the hands of his Dad.

I think he’ll be just fine.

DAFTW!!

beebeecava on May 10, 2008 at 8:51 am
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#162….finally a rational post and I agree 100%.

If you’re a true Archie fan, this isn’t going to make a difference. It’s about Jeff, not David A. True fans would feel some empathy for David A that his dad’s getting bad press, but a true Archie would know it won’t hurt his chances. David C is performing great despite personal problems. He’s been admitted to the hospital once during the competition and his brother is terminally ill. Personal strife is life…good artists find solace in their art.

Idol has been very very fair to David A. The show & the judges were putting it out there that he would be the heir apparent from week 1 of Final 24 and haven’t wavered much from that position since.

Isn’t anyone feeling bad for the other contestants who (it is alleged) were pestered by Dad? Don’t they deserve the same opportunity as David A without anyone interfering?

In a post show interview, Jason mentioned being burned out. I wonder how much of that was from ignoring Jeff?

dojo625 on May 10, 2008 at 8:53 am
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LOL – The AP is the freaking lord of all news. Do research, people. They own all the major newspapers. It’s news NOT from the AP that shouldn’t be trusted.

Fans should be glad Dadchuleta is getting blamed for the extra lyrics addition because if not, then it would’ve been David who was banned. Thank god he’s “only 17″ and “not accountable.” Those licensing/copyright fees are EXPENSIVE, and including a bit of another song on what was intended is like sneaking in some extra oranges into your groceries after they’ve already been paid for. Or something like that.

Anyways, I’m not a fan, but I’m glad Archie’s getting to stand on his own feet now. What 17 yr old wants a parent micromanaging every. litttle. thing. s/he does? Most kids his age are preaparing for or already attending college. It must be nerve-wracking for him to watch the others have “fun” while Dad’s kept him on a short leash.

All my best to DA.

tinroofrusted on May 10, 2008 at 8:54 am
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I’m also not much worried about poor little AI having to pay for some royalties. (Hey, call me heartless)

beebeecava on May 10, 2008 at 9:02 am
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eff Archuleta was told this week by producers that he can no longer join 17-year-old son as David as he prepares for the show, the person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press. The person wasn’t authorized to comment publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. [/quote]

This story is now being confirmed by the Associated Press.

How reliable!!!

I ‘ll believe it when I see names, Jeff and David can have a fair chance to give their own version of the facts. Up to this point it is still gossip and a very bad one.

Amazing how people believe everything they read.

Danielae on May 10, 2008 at 9:03 am
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Sorry to bring it up again, but they could have stopped him from singing those lyrics after rehearsal if it was going to cost them all that licensing money. Can somebody explain why they didn’t stop the song earlier? He sang it that way during rehearsals. It doesn’t add up to me.

Virginia5 on May 10, 2008 at 9:05 am
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#200, it’s not fair for the other contestants who’ve ABIDED BY the list of cleared songs, reported their choices to TPTB, and sung them without “embellising” lyrics. They’re the ones who’ve played fair. Daddy, and DA by association, not so much.

tinroofrusted on May 10, 2008 at 9:06 am
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jez sayin… I ain’t losin’ sleep over this one.

lol… fair to the others? The others smell sweet next to this story.

And V5, I agree with you… as I observed when it first broke… there are surely a huge pack of rights lawyers on staff… how, oh how did that performance make its way right past those highly paid professionals to “for sale” on iTunes…

Was somebody sleepin’ on the job?

beebeecava on May 10, 2008 at 9:13 am
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Looking back at all that has gone on I see Jeff A was given a chance to clean up his act. I am now thinking the Naomi Judd revelations were planted by Freemantle. They are running the show on CMT that she is a judge for. So, TPTB give Jeff that warning and perhaps he takes a step back. But as the weekls go on and he sees there is a possible raodblock to his son’s winning, DC, he turns back to his meddling ways. They basically had to slap this on him or leave themselves open to charges they ignored Jeff A’s behavior because they wanted DA to win. So, Jeff A is getting what he was deserved, he was called out in the national media and still choose to take his interfering actions.

chessguy99 on May 10, 2008 at 9:28 am
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I have not doubt that the powers to be at ai are leaking this stuff to the media.

Possible reason is to increase the shows viewers…surely more people would tune in this week to see if DA can pull off a song on his own.

I support Jeff in his dedication to David. Think about it from our point of view and how upset we get with all the pimping of one other idol on the show. Imagine how Jeff must feel because surely he is seeing the same thing we are seeing. Over the last several weeks the pimping has gotten really bad so I am sure that DA’s family keeps the over pimping DC feelings from David, and we all know that Jeff knows about us here and our feelings on the subject, so that in fact may be one reason why Jeff may possibly be pushing a little harder for his Son (JEFF is not being a STAGE PARENT) who wants so badly to win this competition. You can bet your A$$ that I would be doing the same thing for my minor child if I honestly thought the playing field was unbalanced.

How can AI and TPTB not think to come to the support of David who has watched every idol show over and over and has dreamed since season one about this show. I think it says alot about DA’s devotion to the show and think of what this could do for the future idols that have been dreaming of this opportunity. It really upsets me that DC does not and has not even supported the show prior to this. He went to the auditions only to support his brother, and the reason he was not going to try out because according to him, he was getting somewhere on his own. I am not bashing DC, and I am happy for him because he is talented, but for AI to keep their mouths shuts when something like this appears in the news it really pisses me off.

As a mother, I would NEVER send my child into the AI territory. I hope that every parent that thinks of supporting and helping their children that want to go into the music industry, try some other way than AI. I wish, I had the money to help people with musical talent. I love music and I understand DA’s deep feelings towards music.

I have only watched one other season of AI but honestly, this is my last.

GoDavid on May 10, 2008 at 9:30 am
207

Welcome to the DA thread. Have some tea and biscuits.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 9:32 am
208

Wow, Archie’s dad is the one to blame for all the lyric changes. I thought all the while it was David’s forgetfulness or just hamming it up.

Producers did the right thing.

peter.parker.000 on May 10, 2008 at 9:36 am
209

So all of a sudden, Jeff is the reason of Jason’s flubbed lyrics and DC off night on tuesday? I suppose Jeff terrified Brooke so much that she kept having melt down every week?

Go Jeff Archuleta!

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 9:40 am
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Hey, I say go, Jeff, too! I have no doubt that he fights for music changes. And I strongly suspect that he has nothing to do with the other contestants. I can’t even imagine him trying to intimidate David Cook, who is considerably bigger than him.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 9:46 am
211

I just read a blurb from Clay Aiken, where he said he doesn’t watch the show anymore because it has lost its innocence. The good about the show was that it found raw talent and supported it … giving the kids a chance to shine and win fans. It seems now that they find the best possible people and then decide who they want the viewer to support, then shove that person into our faces.

Need to find the Aiken piece and post the link, because that is how I’m feeling.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 9:49 am
212

and now I know why Paula has been lukewarm twards DA this past weeks. Jeff must have been harassing her. I wonder what he put into Paula’s drink that made her judge Jason’s 2nd song before he even sang it. No wonder TPTB got tired of him.

LOL

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 9:50 am
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here’s a quote which can lighten us up… let’s believe in this for David.

“IF YOU ARE IN A DIFFICULT SPOT, REALIZE THAT GOD MEANS FOR YOU TO BE WHERE YOU ARE. HE WHO HAS CARRIED YOU THIS FAR ISN’T GOING TO DROP YOU NOW.”

David is a good person. If we, his angels, wont leave him in these difficult times, how much more the big guy up there? God won’t forsake him.

glaiza on May 10, 2008 at 9:51 am
214

1. I am so sorry to read this story.

2. Jeff Arch is not a terrible stage dad.

3. The show is paying the price for the “smart idea” of Beautiful girls mash.

4. I wonder if it was even Jeff’s idea to do the mash up. The show is treating him and David like it was.

5. This issue is about copyright infringement, not a parenting.

6. Poor David.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 9:53 am
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I just can’t see Jeff being what the media is calling a stage dad. I do believe that his focus is with David and probably trying to as a guardian/parent to make things happen that highlights David’s voice.

I am sure that since Taylor Hicks turned out to have a strong voice as to his opinions about his music, AI did not want anything to do with Taylor.

AI want people they can mold into what they want someone to be. They want YES people and desperate talented people to win. DA is not desperate. He has “B” plans if this doesn’t work out. The other idols contestants to me seem to only have plan “A” which to me makes them look desperate. DA is so smart for his age.

David wants to win AI, so for him, I will keep voting non stop as long as I see in his performances over the next few weeks that he still wants to win. I think we are so intuned to David, we will be able to tell if this is something that he still wants.

GoDavid on May 10, 2008 at 9:54 am
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glaiza, thanks for #213.

Virginia5 on May 10, 2008 at 9:54 am
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Here’s what Clay said:

If you’re getting a little tired of “American Idol” at this point, you aren’t alone. But one of the show’s most recent public detractors is among the handful of people who owe their careers to the show. Season 2 runner-up Clay Aiken is among those who don’t watch anymore, and he told “Extra” why.

“It’s just not the same thing,” he said. “It’s like going back to your high school and none of your teachers are there. It’s just completely different.”

Funny, I thought Randy Jackson, Paula Abdul, Simon Cowell and even Ryan Seacrest were all there when Clay “attended.”

“I feel like the show was very innocent for a while when I was on it, and I absolutely thank God for it … it’s just not the same show,” he went on to tell “Extra.” “It’s not that I have an aversion to it. It’s just, ‘Eh, next…’”

KH on May 10, 2008 at 9:55 am
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Don’t worry guys. Our baby will pull through this. He is stronger than we are giving him credit for.

Let’s give David a little credit. Ya’ll are making it sound like Jeff sings the songs for him too. David’s got the voice, and knows just how to use it!

Brookeabcdefg on May 10, 2008 at 9:56 am
219

Well, I don’t feel that way, Brooke. I think David has consummate musical sensibilities, and I think he and Jeff are a great team.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 9:59 am
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OMG! Well I hope this makes David stronger and actually I hope this does build character. He will still get advice from his vocal coach etc. behind the scenes so it is ok. Maybe he will feel less pressure without daddy hovering over him at rehearsals. Yes we are still voting out little butts off for Pork Chop, there is no stopping us. WE have to get Baby D to the finale. It just wouldn’t be right without him, ya know. The finale would suck without him. I hope the Arch Angels will rally together and vote even harder when David needs us. We have to show him that we support him NO MATTER what happens. I know I am voting the entire time. I hope that LN picks a song that he loves to sing as his pick and blow us away. We love you David Archuleta and don’t you forget it.

sue on May 10, 2008 at 10:00 am
221

Ok…..I’m not going to read through the entire thread, but here’s my take on it. Jeff is banned from rehearsals, but not the actual performance night and eliminations, right? So, it may not be as bad as we all think. Let’s face it, the media tends to embelish the truth a little. Even if it is true, David’s fans aren’t going to let his Dad influence our voting. If anything, this would make us want to support him more and vote more. I don’t think David’s dad’s actions should have any impace on David as a performer and/or a person. He’s still David, and he’ll still come out just as strong as ever!!!! He needs us now more than ever. We can’t let this be the reason he goes home. Not now…..not after this week!!!!!

ahecht25 on May 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
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I’ve always felt DA has the “chops” and knows what to do with ‘em. HIs Dad has been a strong support for him, but I gotta say, I trust DA.. and… que sera, sera…

beebeecava on May 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
223

ditto, suzanne.

the reality check is this, Jeff A cost the show to pay more money by changing the song. therefore, he should be out of the backstage.

his lucky 19 productions doesn’t sue his behind for the damage he cost the show.

peter.parker.000 on May 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
224

the producers better not plot a shock elimination for david next week. if they do… THIS MEANS WAR!!!

ok, im calming down. inhale. exhale.

glaiza on May 10, 2008 at 10:03 am
225

I’m only just catching up with this now. Many posts in this thread go WAY BEYOND the AP story. The show was probably threatened with suit on Wednesday by the copyrright holder of Beautiful Girls. they settled on Thursday. And decided on Friday that maybe separating David from Jeff may have avoided the problem in the first place. that’s it. AI has the power to ban anyone from any thing associated with their show. If David wants to stay in the competition, he needs another guardian in to be in rehearsal rooms. His parents can probably designate anyone, even a family friend, as that guardian.

It’s not about parenting. AI was burned on a copyright issue. And it was a mistake for David to sing those words. The show is responsible for airing the performance, and is paying for it in cash.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:04 am
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Oh, and I forgot to said……….THE NATIONAL ATHEM!!!! OMG…..beautiful. That was nice to wake up to.

ahecht25 on May 10, 2008 at 10:05 am
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Oh, and I forgot to said……….THE NATIONAL ATHEM!!!! OMG…..beautiful. That was nice to wake up to.

ahecht25 on May 10, 2008 at 10:05 am
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223–peter–I don’t think that 19 E or Freemantle would have a cause of action against Jeff Archuleta. The entity that caused the copyright infringement is the entity that broadcast the performance. Legally, it was their fault.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:07 am
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Airing on the side of caution I am going to assume that at least some of this story is true… and then I am going to send a letter to the TPTB and tell them what a wonderful and talented person david is and that he is truly a great role model for today’s youth and…… I just might include a copy of the interesting cook article, you know the one with that darling little child

fluffy10 on May 10, 2008 at 10:08 am
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19E will not have to pay fines. Sean Kingstons album with Beautiful Girl on it was put out by SONY BMG who is the power house behind all the labels that sign the previous American Idol contestants that are offered contracts. Simon has his feet in SONY/BMG so this “fine” stuff is CRAP. SONY/BMG – Epic Records hold the rights to this song although Sean Kington wrote the words. I would also have to go as far to say that they hold the rights to “Stand by Me” since the music arrangement for Beautiful Girls is intertwined with “SBM”

GoDavid on May 10, 2008 at 10:09 am
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I don’t see any apologies to Rickey yet AND I also think the SuperFans owe the rest of us an apology as well for biting our heads off anytime a tiny criticism was made of David A. I admit I am not a freaked out DA fan, I love Jason and then DC.

My question is has any other contestant brought along their own Vocal Coach?? Just curious.

I’m sorry for David A that he has such a cut throat competitive Dad. I have seen this same behavior in the sports arena and 9 times out of 10 the kid turns 18 and says “I’m done” “I’m burned out, and I’m not doing this in college” “I want a real life” It often has negative backlashes also on their everyday lives and they rebel.

Because I am a Mother, I hope David A. gets some help psychologically, after this is over and done with. I hope David A. can take a lesson from Jason when he said ” I won’t let AI define me” “There is so much more to me”

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 10:10 am
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we’ve gone from TMZ to an AP story that gives really no details to Jeff sabotaging Brooke, DC, drugging Paula and making Jason forget his lines….

krighton on May 10, 2008 at 10:10 am
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BTW–The national anthem–David was EXCELLENT. Often these AI performers just sound terrible doing it. David was great. After all that singing that day, I didn’t think he’d have the range for it, and would sing alternate notes to tighten the range. I’m surprised that he sang it straight. His only alterations didn’t give him a break on range and sounded magnificent.

David probably knew about the TMZ story and Jeff being banned and all that last night. He’s a hearty kid. (At age 17, I would have cried myself to sleep after a day like that!)

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:11 am
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Yes, David Archuleta exactly has the “B” plan if he’s not winning this crap – to be a EAR and THROAT DOCTOR (is it?)

And if it’s to happen, i will be the first patient to get the treatment.

LOL

inasina on May 10, 2008 at 10:13 am
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David will be fine. He’s much smarter than I think he’s given credit for.

TMZ goes way OTT, so I’ll assume this scenario falls somewhere in the middle. BK.angel – thank you for your input. Not that I needed it to form any kind of opinion, I didn’t.

Everything happens for a reason – he will find his way with or without AI and will soar to heights we’ve never seen the likes of. I can’t wait.

Josie on May 10, 2008 at 10:13 am
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GoDavid–those corporations are related, but not the same. 19E had to pay royalties to the copyright holder of beautiful girls, even if its SonyBMG. They are different entities, even if affiliated. The mash up cost 19E thousands or more.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:15 am
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Legolas, are you reading people’s minds? LOL.

What else is there to say until Nigel, Jeff and DJ confirm it? All cards on the table?

TMZ go figure….they must have this alleged story in their bag earlier, followed DJ for his homecoming with full coverage then Bang! Full impact. No?

Is it confirmed that the contestants have no say in the studio arrangement and it’s AI who has? If true, no wonder the studio arrangement pales in miles by comparison. Some of them are boring and old fasioned. In honor of Simon, sorry.

Anyway, if DJ is happy with his Dad, I am.

KH, me too, dead tired of AI drama, spiralling downwards with each season. Sorry if there are some who enjoyed the bad auditions episodes, I think its a waste of time. And bringing the bad ones back for the finale????? Oh well, entertainment value.

kcboom on May 10, 2008 at 10:22 am
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Lets stay positive. Please don’t bash David’s father. There is always two sides to every story.
David and his family are so endearing. David doesn’t lie and has told us many times how much his family loves and supports him.
DA has been told many times that he can’t sing certain songs or use certain arrangements. That isn‘t fair. DA should be allowed to be himself and not have to worry about being too original. To me, every song David sings to us is better than the original. Brooke change up the words to “I am I said” … this story doesn’t add up to me.
DA said working on arrangements with AI has been on of the most difficult parts of being on the show…remember ALW night.
Being only 17, his father must advocate for him as all good parents should. As a parent, advocating is one of our toughest jobs, it takes a lot of strength from deep inside us. This must be difficult for Jeff , having to advocate so much for his gifted son.

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
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don’t mind me guys. I’m just making fun of the trolls, and shooting down vultures.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 10:25 am
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fluffy10: *I just might include a copy of the interesting cook article, you know the one with that darling little child*

Sorry Fluffy10 but I can’t tell what you are trying to say in your post #229 regarding *the cook article* I guess I haven’t seen it so I can’t tell if you are threatening to dig up dirt on cook or if the article says something positive about David A. Could you please elaborate?

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 10:25 am
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Suzanne, it cost more than thousands. They don’t just have to pay for retroactive rights, they have to pay to make the situation go away. If they aired this without clearance they are liable for a whole lot more than just the back royalties.

jlt001 on May 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
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Morning Angels,

Mecanic 133: tx for the link u rock!!! it was really good

Noel and Shelly and Josie and most of all the above ITA with u.

Sorry but who cares what TMZ says, we support the Archuleta family 100%. The only way we can prove that is to VOTE our A$$es off next tuesday so he gets the most votes and it will look suspicious if TPTB try and I repeat ONLY TRY to send him home. So we’ll know that the SHOW IS REALLY RIGGED lol

Don’t care if I get bash for this ah ah

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
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jlt001–yup. agree. but since they are corporate partners, i was assuming that they’d just settle for the royalties. But you are right–perhaps they wouldn’t have gotten clearance? 19E can be sued for copyright enfringement, which would carry with it damages beyond the past royalties.

It’s a real pickle. 19E have only themselves to blame, frankly.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:33 am
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e! If u’re here somewhere….please relax… talk to me

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:33 am
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Well I’m not religious but I know David will be fine. David is my hero. What are heroesgood at? They fight – adversity only makes them stronger, and fight some more, and win,and survive, the last man standing!

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 10:34 am
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Legolas, I’m getting out now. Thanks for the biscuits and tea. See you and other Angels in other threads.

kcboom on May 10, 2008 at 10:34 am
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Every year I have to laugh at how the fans will say “So and So doesn’t lie and has told us many times how much his family loves and supports him”, “So and So is so sensitive and kind” blah, blah, blah…..

How many of you have actually met David A. in person and spent even 1 hr with him?? How can you honestly attest to his honesty and integrity without actually knowing him?? It is crazy!!

Sadly, the exact opposite is most likely true if there is truth to the way Jeff A. conducts himself. The apple never falls far………

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 10:34 am
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BTW–the slowest news day? Saturday. The ban was timed so that the story would come out on Saturday. (better for David, actually.)

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:35 am
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I read on another thread that Jason Castro may have gotten the second highest number of votes last week, and he was still eliminated. And from all the information gleened from online polls, i-tune sales, etc… it is highly implausible that he was “voted off,” so I am thinking that the inevitable outcome of the so-called “contest” depends ultimately on the wishes of the producers. David A. has been shown favoritism all along in spite of his at times lackluster performances and absence of personality, because he has the “boy wonder” aura of innocence and “American as apple pie” image, has the polished vocals and cuteness that take good pictures, but he doesn’t necessarily have the popular vote, and clearly, neither does David Cook. So it comes down to the inclination of the producers, and if they really want David A. to win, he will win. Your votes don’t decide this. It’s about profitability and ratings. IMO

jael on May 10, 2008 at 10:35 am
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awwww Legolas… u’re so right

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:36 am
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Legalos-your bow please…

Josie on May 10, 2008 at 10:36 am
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Legolas, need help?

Okay, im bringin my SAW out, the screwdriver is not working it

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 10:37 am
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Ahecht..
where are you seeing the sbb from last night?!!!

Virginia5 on May 10, 2008 at 10:37 am
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ml#242, You seem to have over looked the fact that the AP has confirmed the story. I agree 100% that TMZ can’t be trusted but the AP? They don’t report unless they have facts………

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 10:37 am
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Oh jael thank you for this… even better

Imagine the ratings if DA wasn’t in the finale ah ah… That would be the worst show on American Idol well rating wise… IMO

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:39 am
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Suzanne, I assumed from the articles (and by the way is it on Drudge with the picture up top right now) that they refused to get the right and the Archulettas went ahead anyway. That is what caused the problem. Sean Kingston, If he did write the lyrics, (I don’t know if he did) does have the rights to them. Even if the production company wouldn’t go after them, he could in a separate action. (Depending on his contract.) But, yeah, it’s a pickle.

jlt001 on May 10, 2008 at 10:40 am
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Sweet Melissa,

I didn’t say that it wasn’t true I said WHO CARES lol . There is a big difference.
I meant to say whatever they say we will still support DA.

Tx for saying this, it helped me clarify my point.

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:41 am
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David Archuleta is not lieing when he says his dad is awsome. He loves his dad and I’m SURE he is a really great dad…. he was just too involved and in addition to being a dad was also his music coach and manager. David will still do great and succeed.

cindylouhoo on May 10, 2008 at 10:41 am
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MJ,

How are you this morning?

Still smiling form yesterday and seeing how happy he looked…. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:42 am
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#231, sweet melissa,

didn’t melinda doolittle have her vocal coach with her the ENTIRE season last year? she also had a friend consulting her on fashion choices last year too. was this ever an issue last year?

Virginia5 on May 10, 2008 at 10:42 am
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Neil Diamond allowed Brooke to change the lyrics. He encouraged her to do it, and they had footage to prove that. That’s way different than what this is about. They added lyrics from a song that was presumably, not cleared. Everyone else followed the song list given to them.

Can’t see how JA is innocent in this. Here’s the quote from the AP: “Despite a warning, Jeff Archuleta insisted on altering ‘Stand by Me.’ ” He was warned and ignored TPTB, and now he’s paying for it. “Wanting the best for your kid” does not make it ok to break rules.

I’m not picking any fights here, just saying it’s an unfortunate situation for DA to be in. I can’t imagine that this will hurt his voting at all though.

tinroofrusted on May 10, 2008 at 10:43 am
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Sweet Melissa the facts come from David and what he says in his interviews. Maybe it would be helpful check out his interviews. Many are posted on you tube. Would you like some links?

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 10:44 am
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*Throwing a mean looking bazooka to Legolas*

Legolas, spoken as a true hero, instantly some of the seemingly doomed situations in LOTR came to my mind.

Good night Angels. Good night DJ (it has been a blast following your homecoming!)

kcboom on May 10, 2008 at 10:47 am
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kc u’re hilarious lol

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
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256–jlt001–What makes you assume that David requested clearance on beautiful girls and the show refused? to me, that’s a very different situation (culpability) than throwing in the line and the show not picking up on the legal problem until after the airing.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
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virginia–the link to the anthem is at the top of rickeys front page. David was outstanding. Amazing really.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 10:49 am
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Carly: Not really but thank you for asking. David A. has been coached his entire life almost directly out of the womb! He is a vetren at interviews and daddy dearest has been very good at controling what he says and sings so I don’t believe his interviews are even any indicator of the truth. Sorry

#260Virginia: I don’t know, that is why I asked.

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 10:50 am
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haven’t read the entire thread but i don’t think they’ll eliminate DA.

if either david goes, it will make for an interesting top 3 elim and a boring finals. everyone knows the winner will be a david.

if syesha goes home, it will be a boring top 3 elim and but an interesting finals. this looks like a better option for AI.

having a stage dad from hell won’t stop TBTP from signing DA to a recording contract. i bet he’s not the first recording artist with difficult parents and he won’t be the last. and he’ll be 18 soon. 19E won’t have to deal with his dad then.

let’s all hope the poor kid does not get affected by all of these. DA, stay away from the internets!! not good for your health!

bellatrix on May 10, 2008 at 10:51 am
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Sweet Melissa

Wow you seem to know DA really well. And i bet you havent even met him for a minute…

boink

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 10:53 am
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ok im off to bed now. whew. this is so stressful. anyway, i’ll leave another quote before i go. haha. i dont have any other things to say about this issue coz practically, everyone already said it. hihi

“THINGS JUST HAPPEN, THINGS YOU MAY NEVER UNDERSTAND. BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IT’S FOR THE BEST, EVEN IF IT DOESN’T ALWAYS SEEM THAT WAY”.

have a nice chat angels. keep it cool. night!

glaiza on May 10, 2008 at 10:53 am
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go ahead Mechanic. bring out the saw!

I got to go though. Here’s my bow Josie.

aww kcboom where did you go?

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 10:54 am
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I don’t understand why people think David’s dad being banned from back stage would affect his voting scores in any way. Either you’re an Archuleta fan or you’re not. His father’s behavior has nothing to do with his ability to succeed on this show as far as I’m concerned. The boy’s talent speaks for itself.

JadoreAce on May 10, 2008 at 10:55 am
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Thanks glaiza for the quote

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 10:56 am
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I’m still not sure if I trust TMZ as a reliable source. The AP, though, that’s serious cred there.
Way upthread, I was trying to make a lame joke. It fell with a thud. JA does not equal poison. I still don’t like the timing of this announcement. Oh well, about the only good thing out of this for me is that it’s making me step away from the crazier message boards (NOT this blog, Rickey rocks!). I’m loving the thought bubbles.
I just hope David can sing like we know he can this week! DAFTMFW!

lucyricardo on May 10, 2008 at 10:56 am
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#269 No mechanic. But I have watched him and seen him since he was 10 freakin years old on Star Search so my statement that he is a vetren holds

boink

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 10:56 am
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Guys, isn’t it funny…

We’re blogging about things we don’t even know ah ah ah. Making assumption, declaring things are true, believing things, not believing things

we’re all crazy ( good crazy though)

So funny I just realized that !!!!

SPREADING THE NUGGET LOVE!!!!!

C u later, gotta go do some chores

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:57 am
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i haven’t been able to function for weeks because of my ODD. i am so thankful the season is almost over, i hopefully can go back to my normal life.

i have been watching AI for 7 straight seasons now. and i gotta say, i only voted like crazy for archie and will continue to do so until the finals. when this season is done, i am never watching AI again, ever. this is all AI’s fault, they just want more publicity. so yeah ask one of your employees to leak something out — true or not!

this the world we live in now. trial by publicity. yeah AP most likely is the most reliable news source, but common to treat everything they say is 100% accurate is just sad.

and you know the worst part, i saw a thread regarding the thousands of people who died in myanmar. did you see how many people who posted in that thread? probably a dozen. this is probably one of many threads discussing jeff archuleta being a stage dad.

archiebigfan on May 10, 2008 at 10:57 am
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night night glaiz.

ml on May 10, 2008 at 10:58 am
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AI was a means to an end for me. It brought me David Archuleta’s voice.

Josie on May 10, 2008 at 11:00 am
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Sweet Melissa

Well a “veteran” in singing competitions, you can say that. Interviews and public relations…NOPE.

Sigh…i have a feeling if i say more, this can go on and on haha. We won’t meet eye to eye here.

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 11:03 am
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The picture of Jeff at the top of this thread and now on the top center portion of Drudge makes David’s dad look like a crazy person. I wished Jeff hadn’t done that when I saw him point at David like that on the live feed yesterday because I feared then that people (that don’t watch Idol and are casual viewers) may think that the worst is true about JA based off that picture. Oh well, David is still awesome and that won’t change. We all must vote and offer even more support to DA!

timbot on May 10, 2008 at 11:05 am
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#276 i agree. Suddenly everybody is an expert, and a good judge of character (for better or for worse)

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 11:05 am
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Sweet Melissa, Ok that’s fine here. However, David’s interviews are facts not your opinion.
which was is the point that makes your comment so funny. Thanks for that. lol

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 11:06 am
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Suzanne, both articles (AP and TMZ) say Jeff Archuleta “insisted” on altering the line. The AP article says that he did it “despite a warning”. The TMZ article goes further and says that “they told him it COULD NOT be changed” and that “they were beyond pissed when David sang the song with Kingston’s lyric during the live show.” Then he (Jeff) had to meet with lawyers on Wed. The combination of the articles lead me to believe they were told NO to they lyric change and did it anyway. If they weren’t expecting it they wouldn’t have gotten clearance ahead of time.

On a slight tangent, I found the use of could not interesting. Does that mean they tried to get it cleared and the publisher said no? Or did they refuse to even ask? Which is a possibility because aside from money issues, DA would effectively be singing part of a song that was not on the approved list.)

jlt001 on May 10, 2008 at 11:06 am
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KH @ 150: kudos to you for apologizing to Rickey. Unless I missed someone, I think you are the first on this thread. I hope many more will follow your example.

You Know Who You Are: the terms “haters” and “trolls” are being thrown about a lot. I don’t see either in this comment section – just people with differing perspectives. It’s a lot easier to slap a label on someone than actually engage in a discussion, I know, but discussion makes you look a lot more intelligent. For a real look at trolls and haters, check out the Sanjaya blogs from AI6.

As for David, I don’t think this story will negatively affect his votes, but I imagine it will rattle him a little. Any change in his routine could do that, and if David’s used to collaborating with his dad, he’s not going to feel as comfortable without him. As Coca said, though, the experience could also make him stronger. I think he will dig deep and amaze us all.

Go David A!

hesterprune on May 10, 2008 at 11:07 am
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Did you actually go read the article on TMZ? What a jerk his dad is. He badgered everyone even other contestants. He’s lucky AI put up with him this long. DA may be relieved too. Be Glad for David… He’ll do fine maybe better now that that bully is out of his practices.

candle602 on May 10, 2008 at 11:07 am
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Does anyone know where his mom is in all this? I’ve never heard her mentioned.

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 11:07 am
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How many of you have actually met David A. in person and spent even 1 hr with him?? How can you honestly attest to his honesty and integrity without actually knowing him?? It is crazy!!

Sadly, the exact opposite is most likely true if there is truth to the way Jeff A. conducts himself. The apple never falls far………
———————-
#247: I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you’re not implying that how David conducts himself in public is less than authentic. No one will ever convince me he isn’t genuine. Besides what we’ve witnessed for ourselves, consider all of the testimonials from people who’ve known him all his life. It’s at times like this that people will come out of the woodwork for the sake of publicity to stir the pot. In all this time, I don’t recall one person stating anything even remotely negative towards David. It’s quite apparent that he’s well loved by family, friends, his community and his fans.

#231: As for apologies to Rickey, he welcomed/allowed many of those who bashed/deserted him back on the board and so I got the impression he’d let bygones be bygones.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 11:09 am
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Hi ArchAngels! Good Morning.

I’m just dropping by to say that listening to David James Archuleta singing the National Anthem at the Jazz Game is very rejuvenating.

I feel good today knowing that our LN will again showcase his vocal talent come Tuesday.

And … all the Angels will VOTE for him like they never voted before.

Okay, have fun guys. Off to work.

matrix63 on May 10, 2008 at 11:14 am
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Agreed Mechanic. He did a zillion press meets and interviews back then also- I will say no more because contrary to what you may think, I do not dislike DA. But I also do not think he is the “god” that many of you obviously think he is.

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 11:17 am
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Wonderful David is who wonderful David is…AND, David can sing! David will be around singing for us long after American Idol is off the air and that is a good thing. Wasn’t David great yesterday with how he handled that schedule and all of his fans?

timbot on May 10, 2008 at 11:18 am
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LOL. TMZ now has Simon on, saying that he has had no problem with David’s dad and that he doesn’t know of any problem with David’s dad.

Dang it. Made me look. Again.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 11:18 am
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Alexys Thanks for that!!! I honestly believe that
if David was told not sing “beautiful girls” he would not have. Gotta love David!!!

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 11:18 am
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Moring Angels…wow I have missed alot while I was sleeping..I just listened and watched Archie sing at the Utah Jazz game and OMG he was AMAZING!! the crowd went absoulutly nuts!! no matter what happends in the end this ANGEL of ours will TRIUMPT!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Irqg__9MA

stina8614 on May 10, 2008 at 11:19 am
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I just knew that the “worst stage dad” thing was true.
Naomi Judd wouldn’t lie for nothing. Obviously!

As i said back then “sometimes parents can be very much like that. even if david doesn’t like or want so. i hope he can overcome that and do well in the competition and in life!”

Whats up with these crazy fans that don’t want to believe in anything that it isn’t “he’s the best” and “he’s perfect”???
Nobody is perfect or has a perfect life!
Live with it!

I thanked rickey for the honesty back then and I am thinking him again right now.

butterqflyfly on May 10, 2008 at 11:20 am
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Here’s a link from TMZ with Simon Cowell saying he’s had no problems with Jeff:

http://www.tmz.com/2008/05/10/simon-didnt-vote-off-archuletas-dad/

mccrack on May 10, 2008 at 11:22 am
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ops,

GOOD JOB, RICKEY! we love you! ;D

butterqflyfly on May 10, 2008 at 11:23 am
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I didn’t believe the TMZ story was true at first, but I guess it deserves to be in the news. I’m glad the bashers got this stage dad thing out of their system now. They will need to come with new things (and they will).

I’m sure David will do just fine next Tuesday. This might even be a great opportunity for him, because he doesn’t have to deal with the tension between his dad and the producers on the set.

The downside is that the producers get to have their way with the arrangements, so we will hear a lot of bells and chimes and triangles that so sweetly remind Nigel of his days of prime in the seventies.

This is a weird season of AI. The youngest contestant, a minor, a talented young man and “an innocent soul,” as someone put it here, is attacked relentlessly and systematically on every possible front, and the producers actually seem to encourage these attacks.

I still believe that this show is about who gets the highest number of votes. Otherwise, the producers could have done away with DA whenever they would have wanted.

Also, I think this clearly shows that DA is the front runner. It is almost amusing how much work the producers and judges need to put into pimping DC (which isn’t in any way his fault).

I am done with AI after this season, and I will never watch anything produced by Simon Cowell or Nigel Lythgoe. Or anything involving Paula Abdul. I liked them before, but now they make me sort of nauseous.

(Sorry for the long post.)

jamec on May 10, 2008 at 11:26 am
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Since David is the one who actually sang the changed lyrics, maybe we should just be thankful that JA was one who was banned. The contestant are probably very aware of the rules, too.

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 11:27 am
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Moring Angels!! I have missed alot while I was sleeping.. I just watched and listened to Archie sing at the Utah Jazz game.. was AMAGING!! the crowd was ROARING!! after he sang. If that is not a Measure of how much people luv him I don’t know what is..I hate TMZ as much as the rest of you but aleast Simon had good things to say : )

stina8614 on May 10, 2008 at 11:28 am
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To BK.angel #114, THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for your terrific insight and post. Even though I was here in the wee hours of the morning earnestly trying to calm the Archies by saying DA will rise above it, I had a knot in my stomach thinking of the possible growing hysteria this is going to cause. By that I mean the haters bringing on more hate, the gloating and loathing for all with ears to hear and eyes to read. David WILL rise above this. My woman’s intuition and motherly instinct tells me so.

To all, David will still have his father everywhere else but backstage. To me, it’s not the end of the world if he’s not there insisting on things being a certain way. I HATE that this happened now, but it is what it is. I know we will continue to do what we’ve been doing, with even greater focused energy and determination. Get everybody you know is a fan to VOTE VOTE VOTE, and throw in some extra prayers for the boy to rise above it. I’m so excited, actually….nothing like some drama to push someone to a higher level.

To rickey, thank you for your generosity of giving us the space to discuss this matter, and for all the fun threads and pictures too. I appreciate that you brought this to our attention in the manner that you did, with great concern for David. It IS a serious matter, I agree, and I truly and firmly believe David will be stronger. Can’t wait for Tuesday night to watch a more confident David Archuleta. Anyway, rickey, you rock, and I appreciate all that you do for the Archies.

Fe on May 10, 2008 at 11:28 am
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JOS>> so right…

well I’ll leave this thread to the others..

Nothing can bring me down today…awwwwwwwwwww… so happy he’s home ….

Angels.. I would tell u to remember Rascal’s note but I guess it would be pointless…

Well Have a good one… Take it easy today

Love nugget hugs XOXOXOX

ml on May 10, 2008 at 11:28 am
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jamec – the TMZ story is full on non-truths so don’t review–ignore it–TMZ is a gossip rag. The AP story is what you should review which is being carried in newspapers and only address that JA lost his backstage pass. Nothing else.

Kking on May 10, 2008 at 11:29 am
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Carly: *David’s interviews are facts not your opinion.”

————————————–
HaHa Thanks for the laugh Carly!! I guess Carly believes that since David was 10/12 years old he has been put in front of the camera and not told by his father/mother what to say-he was just born comfortable and knew what you could and couldn’t say to the media and knew he always had to be “on” never tell how he “really felt”

WOW! I guess ya’ll have been right all along and Daivd is a “God” and “Boy Wonder” I feel like such an idiot for ever doubting it, will ya’ll fogive me and let me wear a pair of your rose colored glasses too???? Please????? Oh and can you please pass the kool aide too???

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 11:30 am
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The only thing that surprised me about the TMZ clip was how utterly charming Simon is. That he’s had no problems with David’s Dad didn’t surprise me one bit. As many of us have said, this whole thing has been blown wayyy out of proportion.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 11:30 am
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Nothing but happy thoughts and prayers for you David in what I’m sure is a difficult and stressful time. Whatever happens this week or next, it has been an absolute blessing to hear you sing and enjoy you on AI this year.

wyocat on May 10, 2008 at 11:32 am
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Um…Sweet Melissa…who are you a fan of anyway? It’s obviously not David. I suspect it’s Cookie. I think you might have jumped into the wrong David thread.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 11:33 am
308

Jamec: score! My first big laugh of the day. Agree with you on every point. Weird season. Poor kids. I think the show is going to need to hang it up very soon unless they are willing to find the heart of the show again.

I know DC fans will hate to read this, but an Archie win would be so good. He’s the little kid who loved the show. He aspired to be as good as the contestants. To my knowledge, he has never had anything but good to say about Idol, and his win would make the story come around full-circle.

DC went to the audition to support his brother and tried out on a whim. Yes, he’s good. He’ll succeed regardless.

I honestly believe that Syesha will get what she wants out of the show, also. She’s beautiful and charming, and she’s been noticed.

But DA FTELMFW! GDit!
(And I don’t cuss, so…)

KH on May 10, 2008 at 11:33 am
309

While I am extremely disturbed that this story has come out this week, the day of David’s homecoming, I think it shows us that David can handle it. If the story is true, this all happened Wednesday. While I’m SURE this is very distressing to David, he is showing us now, more than ever, that he can handle the pressure that comes with AI. He was so happy & relaxed yesterday. If he was just a kid under his dad’s control, & didn’t want this for himself, he would be cracking right now, & he would not have been able to hide that yesterday with cameras on him the entire day. I think that David is showing us that he is ready for this, whatever it may bring. We need to support him now, more than ever. We can’t let him down. We need to vote, vote, vote. I find it hard to believe that TPTB will ignore votes. They allowed Taylor to win, didn’t they:)

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 11:36 am
310

the Vote For The Worst web site is now pushing its folks to vote for David Archuleta because of his Dad, his weird breathing and all sorts of reasons.

GREAT! we’ll take any and all votes we can get — anywhere we can get them!

the main drawback to this is that it could knock Little David off balance. let’s hope not.

so VOTE like you’ve never voted before!

BigFanLittleDavid on May 10, 2008 at 11:37 am
311

#315
This isn’t a “Love David” thread. I think we’re all entitled to our opinions.

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 11:38 am
312

Just look at the pic at the top of this thread.
WTF, David A. cant even go greet his fans at home without Big Daddy acting like his cheering section next to him. uugh sickening!

candle602 on May 10, 2008 at 11:39 am
313

Get a life Dad!!

candle602 on May 10, 2008 at 11:40 am
314

Sorry, I meant #307

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 11:40 am
315

Oh, no. Little David won’t be knocked off balance. I think he knows the story.
He’s the one who said, early on, don’t trust the media. He’s the one who said this weekend that the three judges’ opinions are just three people’s opinions, and that his goal is to reach his audience. (But that he also understood that some people vote based on the judges’ comments.)

So wise. You bet I’m voting for the kid.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 11:40 am
316

Being passionate about your kid’s talent is one thing, but being a d*ckhead to the other contestants and production is another. Good riddence. I betcha David does just fine without his dad. In fact, I bet he does even better because he no longer has his overbearing dad pressuring him every waking moment.

pud333 on May 10, 2008 at 11:41 am
317

Sweet Melissa Aaawww maybe Kool-aide is exactly what you need to get the bitterness out of you mouth. Good thinking on that. As for your negative opinions towards a sweet and gifted 17 year old…you’ll have to work that out with yourself. Enjoy you day…maybe going to another thread will help.

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 11:42 am
318

there’s a new video of Simon on TMZ, saying he’s had no problems with Jeff, & he hasn’t heard of anyone else having problems. He also said no one cares about the lyric change. At least Simon isn’t throwing David under the bus:)

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1546459635

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 11:43 am
319

I’ve been reading all of the posts with interest, but I think it is important to remember what this is all about…MONEY!!! AI is out to get the most viewers, especially after a ratings decline, changes to next year, etc. If AI had such a problem with SSB and the changes, WHY then did they allow it to go to itunes on video, to be BOUGHT and replayed over and over? They had over a day and a half to change this if it was such a legalistic problem, yet they did not. I think DA will be fine. Before AI not very many knew of him, but now EVERYONE does, and will hear him and his amazing voice. Regardless of the outcom, AI has lost all credibility with me.

wallsbeme on May 10, 2008 at 11:43 am
320

(Maybe the lost Cook fans should head over to VFTW and campaign for their guy to be the pick.)

KH on May 10, 2008 at 11:44 am
321

This whole thing is just sad.

hollyg9211 on May 10, 2008 at 11:46 am
322

guys David will be fine and honestly, not having his dad around all the time will be good for him. He is going to be 18 for godsake, let’s treat him as a young adult. That’s probably what he’d prefer anyway.

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 11:48 am
323

#315
This isn’t a “Love David” thread. I think we’re all entitled to our opinions.
__________________

Of course you are, but so are we. I just think its interesting that we suddenly have a slew of newbies on here taking potshots at David. Wonder if you’d all be so understanding about respecting opinions if a few of us were to drop by Cook’s thread to enlighten it with our ‘opinions’.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 11:50 am
324

Ricky, you shouldn’t be hurt by what a few fans said. The majority of fans want to be fair and want to hear what is going on so we can understand it. There are a lot of lurkers who don’t want to engage a small, clearly close group of fans who have their own opinions. But you are never alone. Many fans greatly appreciate the love and support you have shown David. Yesterday was great. Thank you so much.

There is so much smoke that there must be some fire somewhere. Where and how much I don’t know. But the song seemed well rehearsed and everyone seemed to know what was going on. I have a hard time believing it was a total surprise. And Simon saying his Dad was fine makes me very suspicious.

I think for this to happen now, here at the very end, then it’s all about publicity for a sinking show. And to get the winner they want. I have been reading about things happening to all the now eliminated idols. I think it’s David’s turn now to face the manipulation. I can’t imagine the stress that he must be under right now. So sad.

meg on May 10, 2008 at 11:51 am
325

I’m out of here. Go David A!

Legolas on May 10, 2008 at 11:51 am
326

Last year, we kept hearing about Jordin being “ONLY 17!?” How come we never hear those words about David? Is it because she seemed older than 17 and he seems so much younger?

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 11:52 am
327

285–jlt–thanks for the detailed reply. (I enjoyed the “talk” on here w/you, btw.) I’ll go look. sounds like AI did the right thing. I hope it blows over for david’s sake. Saturday news cycle may help with that.

312–Candle–If you saw any of the clips and feeds from yesterday, then you know that Jeff A wasn’t with David much at all yesterday. David’s mom and a friend of David’s was with him for most of the day, and David spent a lot of time talking to the press and largely greeted fans on his own. The shot at the top of the thread is misleading. at the High School event, David’s entire family were there. It’s unreasonable to criticize Jeff A for standing next to his son at a public event.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 11:52 am
328

Ok, his dad is an A-hole. So What!

DA fans…Grow Up!

smelly shmelly on May 10, 2008 at 11:54 am
329

Hey, cheer up! I’ve never seen so much hand-wringing. And remember what Oscar Wilde said:

“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”

Miss Scarlett on May 10, 2008 at 11:54 am
330

Sad to see all these news, being a latin american mom, I can understang how passionate we tend to be when It comes to our children, this obviously has nothing to do with parenting issues, but with legal issues. Producers allowed David to sing it that way, and there must be a reason for that. I doubt highly that Jeff will or would control their final decission…Rickey is amazing in bringing all of us here to share our thoughts and respectfully agree to disagree…That post by BKangel was perfect and proof that David’s family does support him and his parents are behind him every step of the way. The timing is not good, but it could be the best thing for the ratings and that’s thanks to David A and his talent and popularity. We all need to concentrate on him, his singing and how hard we have to vote to make sure he gets what he desserves–the win! He is a special guy, who touches millions just with his voice and his beutiful and transparent soul! We’ll support him more than ever now, since truth or not, exaggerations or not, things like this affect you emotionally, and David has to be stronger than ever to put it aside and concentrate on him and his songs and his fans…we are bwhind him a million percent–even from Canada!

pattylovesarchie on May 10, 2008 at 11:54 am
331

What is important to remember is that after all, those of us who support David will do so because of his vocals and not because of AI. AI wants to have it both ways, and for sure they can’t. They have really shot themselves in the foot on this one.

wallsbeme on May 10, 2008 at 11:55 am
332

I wonder what Simon meant when he said “That’s where all the smart money is going”.

coca on May 10, 2008 at 11:56 am
333

coca, I took it that simon meant the smart money was that there were no issues. who knows. Simon usually says what he really thinks, so I think he would have admitted if it was true.

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 11:57 am
334

“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”

Sigh…if only they were positive haha

This is quite a day!

mechanic on May 10, 2008 at 11:58 am
335

Rickey–I’m sorry that you still feel hurt. I was one of the people who supported that you reported the news back then, and I didn’t understand the “freak out” of some of the people at all. I think many, many more people supported you (many silently) than criticized you back then. In the blog biz, you’re going to have people who write . . . well . . . terrible things. Anonymity can inspire people in many ways.

Rickey–you are so excellent. We love you. I’m so glad to be able to come here and see what “art work” you’ve made for us and to talk with everyone, even if sometimes I agree with few.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 11:58 am
336

Our David is a Rockstar.
Believe in him.
Go play some of his music.

Love you all angels/ sympathisers.
And love you too Rickey!

ellykat on May 10, 2008 at 12:00 pm
337

#315
I may be a “newbie” but I’ve been reading this board for a year and a half. I finally posted today because I saw people with differing opinions being labeled as trolls, which I thought was unfair. I also saw people being unwilling to apologize to Rickey when all he did was report a story that was newsworthy. And no, I’m not a “Cookie” although I enjoy his music. I’m going to watch the remainder of the season with much less interest now that Jason is gon. The way the judges have pimped Archie all season, my guess is he’s the “chosen one”, much like Jordin was last year. You guys probably have nothing to worry about.

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm
338

my guess
is
that the *smart money* was Simon responding to someone asking him about WHO to BET on,
and that the answer given
was David Cook.
Apparently there’s another kind of betting hub-bub going on,
where someone has *insider* info and it’s about Cook winning.
You can probably google it and find out what it is exactly…

DeniseP on May 10, 2008 at 12:02 pm
339

Hey everyone, there is no point in freaking out about things that are beyond our control. There are only two things that we CAN do. Love and support David and vote vote vote! Getting David to the finale has to be our number one priority. It may seem like Archie not winning AI would be the worst thing in the world but the worst thing I can think of is AI coming on the air a week from Tuesday without David James Archuleta. We need to stay focused and stay positive. These stories about David’s dad have been floating around for weeks. I don’t think it will effect the voting and we shouldn’t let it get into our head. Relax, rejoice and bask in the glory of our boy. He will do great if we just stay always positive just like he does. He and his Dad didn’t seem any worse for wear yesterday.

Bucksky on May 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
340

on a different topic, have we heard any numbers for each contestants homecoming?? I’m curious how the crowds compared.

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
341

I’m seriously cracking up at some of the fan videos posted on archuletafans.com! it really is like the Beatles:) I really can’t see how AI would explain that kind of turnout, & then say he got the least votes. that is not possible!

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 12:07 pm
342

here’s a link to the thread i’m watching:

http://www.archuletafans.com/Cute-Video-Of-David-t6903.html

seriously, cracking up:)

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 12:09 pm
343

Hey all–I just search news stories–CNN, EW, all google new, etc. The vast majority of stories are about the homecoming. Only a few “tabloid” type outlets are reporting about this Jeff off the set thing.

If we really support Arch, we should probably try not to chat on other boards about it and just let it die.

Let’s support the Nugget.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 12:10 pm
344

mechanic, talk doesn’t always have to be positive to get the desired effect, and while I would prefer that we were hearing good news, I can’t help but think that the benefit of THIS news is that it may well pique the interest of the uninitiated. See, it’s all good. Think about it. Where is ALL the attention right now? If you didn’t already know about Archie, might you perhaps tune in to American Idol to see what all the fuss was about?

Miss Scarlett on May 10, 2008 at 12:11 pm
345

Happiness…

http://extras.sltrib.com/tribphoto/Gallery.asp?ID=93239&PubDate=2008-05-10&GID=ARCHULETA2%5F0509

imagine4101 on May 10, 2008 at 12:12 pm
346

The way the judges have pimped Archie all season, my guess is he’s the “chosen one”, much like Jordin was last year.
______________________
I honestly don’t see David A. being pimped anymore than David C. to be perfectly honest. Only it seems that David A.s the only one who ever gets criticized for it like it’s his fault.

Where the two do differ is that David A. has been raked over the coals by the public from Day 1 on everything from being too nice, to being fake, to being too serious when he reigned it in, to lip licking, to hand movements, to squinting, to a problem father, to problems speaking publicly…to be too deep…to singing only message songs. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the picture. He’s certainly not been pimped by the public whatsoever. I don’t recall a contestant crapped on so much in any season. Even Sanjaya earned more respect and the kid couldn’t even sing. I’ve never sensed any such public hostility against David C. Not that I believe in ‘tit for tat’, but for Heaven’s sake, let’s not even go there about pimping!

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 12:12 pm
347

We should all just forget about this stuff happening with his Dad…and start concentrating one thing…DAFTW!!! His dad seems to be a really nice person, and very proud of his son, and he has raised a true gentleman in David…

David Archuleta, I love you!

Kristi Howard on May 10, 2008 at 12:13 pm
348

Hey “Angels”, “we can work it out” “when you believe”. Don’t keep “waiting for the world to change” because it won’t.It’s a “long and winding road” but David says “stand by me” and “think of me” and he will take us straight to “heaven”. Remember “you’re the voice” “America” and if we’re not confident that Archie is the best and will overcome all the odds then why should anyone else? Always “Imagine” David in that shower of confetti with a new Ford and tears running down his face.

Bucksky on May 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm
349

Bucksky, OMG at first I thought you said “imagine David in the shower”! I got a good laugh, anyway:)

amber1 on May 10, 2008 at 12:22 pm
350

Amber, Omg thanks for the link!!! The news stations were calling David the fifth Beatle yesterday!!! He is so adorable and talented … makes me smile!!! Love that he gave everyone the gang sign!!! Always thinking of us!!!

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm
351

#307 Wrong.Jason fan, see how you all jump to conclusions??? #316 As for making negative comments about an adorable, talented 17 yr old, I haven’t said anything negative about him-again, you crazed fans make your own assumptions. I have commented on the situation, never said anything negative about David A.

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm
352

# 348 Bucksky — You are awesome. Wow.

Clorets on May 10, 2008 at 12:24 pm
353

You can Imagine David in the shower if that’s what it takes but it’s not what I had in mind…lol

Bucksky on May 10, 2008 at 12:24 pm
354

Don’t be angry Rickey – you should feel vindicated! Also, we have seen that you do not have to win AI to make it big in the music industry (and some winners don’t make it as big despite their wins), so no matter what happens, DA will make it big (though I think he and DC will be in the finals no matter what TPTB wish).

Chin up! Your site is the BEST AI site ever!

GSM on May 10, 2008 at 12:24 pm
355

ok so i dont want to take the rumors so seriously but it has to be based on something…it’s not coming from nothing. this makes me really sad. i hope that David isn’t too affected by this…
also i’m looking forward to performances that are really HIS and not having his dad decide everything~

seoul on May 10, 2008 at 12:25 pm
356

Imagine and amber and bucksky, thanks for the links and the positivity. I feel much better. The photos are astounding and the videos wonderful.

Can’t BELIEVE the screaming girls, and I always love the big smile David has for everyone.

KH on May 10, 2008 at 12:26 pm
357

Bucksky thanks for that!!!

Carly on May 10, 2008 at 12:26 pm
358

bucksky – thats fantastic!!

lmao amber – i tthink ALLL of us already imagined david the shower

MC on May 10, 2008 at 12:27 pm
359

Thanks for the compliments. I just want everyone to stay positive. Our love for David should not give us a stomach ache but that’s what all the worrying and paranoia leads too. I’m just taking a cue from David to always concentrate on the positive side of everything.

Bucksky on May 10, 2008 at 12:31 pm
360

341–amber–thanks for the link. I love seeing these videos of david’s day yesterday.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 12:33 pm
361

Rickey, I love you. While I was overseas, your blog was where I came to see the idol updates before they were available on TV. I think you deserve a lot of praise for working so hard on this blog. So this is not meant to be in anyway disparaging of you, but I have to respond to this post.

Because AP picks up a story is *not* a guarantee of truth. Especially from an anonymous source who was “not authorized” to talk about said gossip. The media reports what they believe to be true, but in the past we’ve seen incidences where they have had to redact stories because they got their facts wrong. They are not infallible.

Watch the video with TMZ trying to get the dirt from Simon (not anonymous, BTW) who says there are NO PROBLEMS with Jeff Archuleta and that NO ONE CARES about the changed lyrics. Come on. Let’s let this die already. David’s a talented singer, a great kid and a kind soul. Whatever quirks his dad might have, his parents obviously brought him up right.

Gerb on May 10, 2008 at 12:35 pm
362

Hey guys! I’ve been a lurker for a long time and finally decided to get an account today. You guys are all awesome and I love your website Rickey! Lets keep positive and hope David blows everyone away next Tuesday!

hermy on May 10, 2008 at 12:35 pm
363

okay archies. no need to be in this happymooddraining thread.

see you guys in the positive thread =]

bucksky – yupp!! WWDD? (what would David do?) thats what i ask myself everyday. and ive become a better person that way.

MC on May 10, 2008 at 12:36 pm
364

Sadly, the exact opposite is most likely true if there is truth to the way Jeff A. conducts himself. The apple never falls far………
_____________________________________________
Melissa, you might want to refer back to your post #247. If that was your way of complimenting David (since you said you’ve never implied anything negative against David) you might want to pull out your etiquette book.

And this ‘crazed’ fan never said for a fact that you were a Cook fan. If you re-read my post I stated that I suspected it. And since you mentioned it earlier, I don’t think you have to worry about David taking any advice from Jason. Whether he intended to or not, Jason *did* have his AI defining moment(s)on AI Tuesday night. I liked him better than Syesha, but you can’t possibly argue that it wasn’t his time to go.

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 12:43 pm
365

# 303: Kking, you’re absolutely right. Thanks for reminding me of the actual facts.

# 315: KH, it’s great to learn that DA has said all those things. I’m even more sure than before that he will be fine.

#318: Glad to hear that Simon is setting at least some of the facts straight.

#326: I’ve been wondering about the same thing. Jordin was not “too young” at 17, but David is?

#346: I agree. The bashing has long since gotten absurd (or beyond absurd). My absolute favorite was people discussing, in all seriousness, what was the dark secret behind DA not wearing shorts by the dolphin pool in Las Vegas.

This season of AI is getting surreal. I’m glad it will soon be over and we will be able to follow DA’s career, wherever it may take him.

jamec on May 10, 2008 at 12:47 pm
366

i would like to say a few things…

People who bash david because of his dad are being unfair. david is not his father.

david is also the sweetest person in the world…today at the rally, the news reporter asked david to tell his fans to vote, and he said “every week i do my best and give it my all” saying that he believes the votes are theirs to make

he is wise and kind and always does the right thing…he even stood up for jason to simon during his own judging time…he is selfless and wonderful

also,
i used to think vftw was funny and credible until about two weeks ago when i realized that they encourage racist, ageist, homophobic, sexist, and weightest comments, which although directed towards the contestants, are a disservice to everyone. they are mean spirited and so i boycott them and i encourage others to do the same…it’s fine to not like AI, in fact i think it’s hilarious, but they go about it in a away that is even more shameful, i daresay, than the antics of AI and the media…sad, really really sad

David archuleta is a wonderful role model and a beautiful person and this show does not only ask us to choose the best singer (which he is), they ask us to choose an “idol”…IMO, david A is the only one worth “idolizing” because he has proven time and again, that he will choose right over wrong, and so should we…

VOTE DAVID ARCHULETA and vote for kindness, humility, faith, talent, strength, and innocence:)

rousie on May 10, 2008 at 12:57 pm
367

hm..i always think that it’s ok if the parents so supporting that they sometimes give us an idea what to do. But, the parents has to understand not to interfere to much. Otherwise, it will be bad. bad for the child, and annoys other people.
This is maybe a shocking moment for David..but it’s also the time to show that he is a good singer. No matter what has happened, he will stand tall. And if he can do it well, I do believe that peoples will respect him even more.
God Bless DA..and of course the other contestants as well

nainaitokorg on May 10, 2008 at 12:59 pm
368

Jeff Archuleta is NO BULLY. Jeff Archuleta is a father who loves his son and knows what’s best for him as far as arrangements with songs because he’s a musician. He is not the Dad from Hell. He is a supporting Dad who has raised along with Lupe with one the most humble, talented, loving human beings on the planet named David Archuleta and I SUPPORT him and his family.

Those of you saying He is a creep and David is better off without him are not DAVID A Fans. He loves his father and believes he wants the best for him. Just because he tells the band how to play a song so it’s better suited for his son’s voice does not make him evil.

WE LOVE YOU JEFF, LUPE and the ENTIRE ARCHULETA FAMILY. Good for him that he was sticking up for his son. David would be so hurt knowing some of his so called fans were so mean to his Dad.

We will continue to Love and Support David and continue to vote. So what if 19 had to pay money..big deal..they have made plenty from us. They should have let him sing it that way in the beginning knowing it makes the song more current.

Jeff did what Fathers do..Protect his son and see that he shines inspite of the restrictions that stupid Idol puts on the contestants.

The hell with all you hataz.. David is still a STAR!

ealbino on May 10, 2008 at 1:01 pm
369

Alexys:If that was your way of complimenting David (since you said you’ve never implied anything negative against David) you might want to pull out your etiquette book.
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I think you should re-read, I never used the word “implied”-pull out your dictionary sweetie
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Alexys: And this ‘crazed’ fan never said for a fact that you were a Cook fan. If you re-read my post I stated that I suspected it.
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And then proceeded to “imply” I should leave hmmm
nice…….

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Alexys: I don’t think you have to worry about David taking any advice from Jason. Whether he intended to or not, Jason *did* have his AI defining moment(s)on AI Tuesday night.
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It might have been Jason’s *AI* defining moment but it does not define his *life*. David and Jeff have tried to *define* David’s life by his competions, Star Search and AI. Jason was a student on scholarship in Petroleum Enginering at an extremely prestigious Texas College, he has more in his life than AI and he is OK with that and so are his fans, friends and family.
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Alexys: but you can’t possibly argue that it wasn’t his time to go.
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He was ready, he lacked the experience the others have, he has only been *singing* for about a year. He is proud of himself and so are his friends.
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You can argue until you are blue in the face Alexys, but the story is what it is………..

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 1:08 pm
370

Sweet Melissa – with all due respect

huh???

smanda on May 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm
371

338–Denise–What Simon meant by the “smart money” in that footage from TMZ is that “the smart money would be on the bet that there is no story here.”
He was saying it’s a non-story so move on.

Suzanne on May 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm
372

#370smanda: What don’t you understand????

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 1:18 pm
373

1.) All the Non-Archie fans in here are trying to stir up garbage and get a rise out of people. Ignore them, Angels.

2.) I’m very disappointed in a majority of the angels who have not APOLOGIZED to Rickey yet for there anger towards him when the dad story first came out. And now its proven true. We’re still waiting for the apologies, Angels!

Indomass on May 10, 2008 at 1:20 pm
374

Like I posted right after first read AP news last night, this does not change my vote and support for David.

David is still in competition mostly because of votes from his solid fan base and not casual fans. The news of Jeff A will likely have some impact but shall not shake his fan base at this stage of competition. His fans love him for who he is and will vote till the end.

This sudden change in his practice/rehearsal environment due to banning of Jeff A will certainly affect him. But we don’t know if the effect is positive or negative till we see it next Tues night. I hope he will rise above this occasion and prove to all (and himself) that he can rely on himself more than he is given credit for. The only thing I am concerned is that, without his more outspoken dad around in rehearsals, David may not strongly insist in his own idea when it comes to execution of the song arrangement. He is too easygoing and seems always avoid confrontation. Nevertheless, this incident is a growing experience for him and will likely benefit him in long term even if it hurts his short term goal of winning AI a bit. But again, AI is all about the journey and not end result. He’s gone far enough to experience everything this show can offer. The title at the end does not matter that much to me. He is already a star who has effect in many people’s life. That achievement alone is worth more than the AI title.

bike2tilden on May 10, 2008 at 1:33 pm
375

Sweet Melissa – I’m sorry, I just found the whole post to be hilariously confusing. I am sorry – but it made me laugh.

smanda on May 10, 2008 at 1:40 pm
376

First time on here! Found this at the idol forums. I think it discribes David A and the media backlash that he is going through very well:

People are often unreasonable,
illogical, and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may
accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.

If you are successful, you will win some
false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and frank,
people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.

What you spend years building,
someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness,
they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.

The good you do today,
people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.

Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you’ve got anyway

jnglkat on May 10, 2008 at 1:52 pm
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#323Alexys: I just think its interesting that we suddenly have a slew of newbies on here taking potshots at David.
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Very few of us are *newbies*, the majority of us that you call *newbies* respectfully stay away from the *D.A. lovefest* and let ya’ll swoon away. However; this is not a *LoveNugget happy* thread therefore we can voice our opinions if we so choose. Get over yourself Alexys! I think a lot of the non-DA fans are non-DA fans because his fan base has turned us all off, especially here on Rickey.org. If this were a DA site you would be within your rights to jump on anyone who has a little criticism of your *Love Nuggett* but guess what??? It ISN’T! In my opinion the DA fans have been extremely disrespectful to Rickey and anyone who dares not worship DA and are extremely hypocritical with all the WWDD nonsense.

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 1:53 pm
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Way to badgered producers, the band, vocal coaches and even OTHER CONTESTANTS! Wow. There goes his sportsmanship. He’s scary!

fannatic on May 10, 2008 at 1:55 pm
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Way to badgered producers, the band, vocal coaches and even OTHER CONTESTANTS! Wow. There goes his sportsmanship. He’s scary!

fannatic on May 10, 2008 at 1:55 pm
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Simon’s video on TMZ WOULD make me feel better about Jeff Archuleta . . . except then I remember that this is the guy who couldn’t remember Carly’s name A WEEK AFTER SHE LEFT.

Yeah, like I’m going to trust his observations of what goes on backstage. He probably forgets it the minute he enters the front door of his mansion.

Demisquirrel on May 10, 2008 at 2:05 pm
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#377
Melissa, well said!

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 2:10 pm
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Doesn’t the photo say it all? As a parent, I can see that the way Jeff is pointing at David is just as whacked as if we was pointing at himself. As though he’s saying “please worship my child so that I can feel validated!” This is not a slam on Archie, I just think his Dad needs to take step back.

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 2:15 pm
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oops, I meant “as if HE was pointing at himself”

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 2:16 pm
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#382lostiegirl: Very insightful!

Sweet Melissa on May 10, 2008 at 2:24 pm
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I watched the streaming of the event yesterday and saw the part where David’s dad was pointing at him. They had called the whole family up together adn David had stepped back into the circle of his siblings and parents. The crowd started cheering and his dad reacted joyfully to the moment. He didn’t have a mike. It was a nonverbal way of saying, “Isn’t this a great kid!!??!”

And he is a great kid. And it is reasonable for his Dad to be proud of him. He has a tremendous gift and he and his dad both see it as a gift, a trust, something to be used in service to other people.

smanda on May 10, 2008 at 2:29 pm
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lostiegirl/sweet melissa,

YAWN!

Alexys on May 10, 2008 at 2:32 pm
387

FYI-

Word from those close to David. David’s dad has not been banned from the set. “TMZ got carried away.” David and his dad are on their way back to LA as we speak

smanda on May 10, 2008 at 2:33 pm
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I’m amazed at all the people who are so willing to give JA a pass and make excuses for his behavior. AI wouldn’t ban someone for one minor offense. More likely this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. JA won’t get any love from me. He’s an example of the very reason that sweet, talented young celebrities end up with mental breakdowns, on drugs and their lives in the toilet. I’d be more concerned about that then turning a blind eye to a serious matter just so DA can win the title.

jennings on May 10, 2008 at 2:40 pm
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Let me try this one more time:

According to those close to David – his Dad has NOT been banned from the set.

smanda on May 10, 2008 at 2:42 pm
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smanda–the report says he was banned from David’s rehearsals. but not banned from the set. he can still be in the audience. so yes your statement is true. but it doesnt disprove the article.

I love David, but we should not be giving Jeff a free ride on this.

Indomass on May 10, 2008 at 3:12 pm
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I think the majority of this thread has blown-up an issue in a way it doesn’t have to be. I know everybody’s got emotional investments in their contestants, but seriously, this seems to be a sort of cut-dry, black/white issue that was resolved quickly and easily.

I’ve completely disinterested in all things Archuleta, so I’m not going to pass any character judgments on Jeff Archuleta. I doubt most of the posters on here have met the guy either, so it’s silly to accuse him of being a creep, an overzealous stage dad, a misunderstood soul, or whatever.

In my opinion, he’s just naive. All he knows is his son can sing, and he wants the best for him. They probably led a pretty sheltered, conservative life, so they didn’t anticipate the serious legal ramifications of borrowing lines from another song. To him, it was probably a harmless way to make the performance more memorable. He had no idea he was infringing on copyrights, intellectual property, violating rules etc. It was a stupid, rookie, amateur thing to do. But forgiveable– at the time he wasn’t thinking about the RIAA nuances of ownership, he just wanted his son to have an edge in the competition.

What is mind-boggling to me is the amount of denial from the hard-core, kool-aid drinking Archies. The majority of the Archies strike me as pretty rational, amiable fans who add to the Rickey community. But for the radical minority that accuse the Associated Press of faulty journalism? Uhm… that’s a bit of a stretch. Get off the blogs and read a newspaper.

Again, I know it’s difficult to consider the option that the world does NOT revolve around David Archuleta (*gasp*!), but they were just reporting objective facts. It’s a serious legal problem when a performer uses copyrighted lyrics without permission. Although the timing was unfortunate, AI had to deal with it quickly and decisively. David is an underage minor, so they brought his legal guardian into it. End of story.

DJ Ryce on May 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm
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he was not “banned”. he was asked nicely not to attend his son’s rehearsals.

butterqflyfly on May 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm
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First, I hope some of DA fans are apologizing left and right to Rickey (and Naomi Judd!) for all of the vile comments that were spewed on his blog a few weeks ago. I find it utterly interesting that people can dismiss the innumerable reports (eg. Judd, Associated Press) which have repeatedly indicated that Jeff is a stage dad. People were bashing Naomi Judd for having a vested interest in promoting her new show and creating these DA stories as a vulgar publicity stint. Yet, when a “source close to David” or Dean Kaelin calls foul and denies the stage dad accusations, people are more than willing to accept what they say as dogma. Geesh – the naivete makes me sick! You don’t think people like Kaelin have a vested interest? He’s DA’s vocal coach for goodness sakes… you don’t think he’ll profit from DA winning AI??

DA has a real gift and is truly talented. However, I really don’t think entering Star Search at the age of 12 could have been his idea… Honestly, I think parents who push their kids into the Hollywood scene are kinda self-serving and exploitative. What’s the rush? Wait until they are 18. Call it what you will… Jeff may not have been banned from the show (yet), but I don’t think he’s a saint or just a “proud” parent. Perhaps he should have coffee with Dina Lohan?

You can bash and critique my comments all you want… but as several posters have already said, some of DA fans are starting to get on people’s nerves. I actually don’t post often, but some of the things I’ve read on here deserved a rebuttal.

meddie on May 10, 2008 at 3:24 pm
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I will limit my comments to one post, as I don’t believe in getting involved too much in this feeding frenzy.

Parents by definition, are over-bearing. Parents, by definition, are also loving and supportive, and so, Jeff Archuleta, by definition, is a normal parent, just like everybody else’s.

Next!

daisawesome on May 10, 2008 at 3:40 pm
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I just knew that the “stage dad” thing was true. Naomi Judd wouldn’t lie for nothing. Obviously!

As i said back then “sometimes parents can be very much like that. even if david doesn’t like or want so. i hope he can overcome that and do well in the competition and in life!”

Whats up with these crazy fans that don’t want to believe in anything that it isn’t “he’s the best” and “he’s perfect”???
Nobody is perfect or has a perfect life!
Live with it!

I thanked Rickey for the honesty back then and I am thinking him again right now.
Thanx for keeping us posted, Rickey! You are the best!

butterqflyfly on May 10, 2008 at 3:43 pm
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#392 “asked nicely” means if you show you will be escorted from the property, so don’t show up. Anyway you put it, they want no Jeff A anywhere except in the audiance. And if he causes anymore problems, he will get that privilage revoked. Its like they say, those who don’t learn from the past are bound to keep repeating it. The good thing is come december, DA will be able to represent himself and hire professionals.

chessguy99 on May 10, 2008 at 4:14 pm
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My dad was an overbearing softball coach for me and my sister and some might have even considered him emotionally abusive for pushing us so hard and yelling at us sometimes. Yet we both turned out fine. It sucks, but it’s the life of having an involved parent. It has both its ups and downs. You take the good with the bad. Archie reminds me a lot of myself when I was his age. Very awkward and nervous in front of groups or crowds of people. Not a very good speaker. Things got better as I got older though and got involved in speech competitions in both high school and college.

I would not be comparing Archie to the other teenagers who’ve been on this show. Diana was a pageant kid so she was very polished. Jordin has a famous dad and is used to the spotlight. Alex was just a naturally outgoing person. Everyone has different personalities.

I think people are making a way bigger deal about this than there is. If his dad was banned from some portion of the show like rehearsals or whatever, so what? Maybe that is good thing. Sometimes I wished my dad was not around me all the time as my softball coach. But it didn’t make him a horrible person. Just normal family tension. The only difference is it wasn’t under the glare of the national spotlight. Everyone’s looking for a piece of drama and well they have it. Have fun. I have better things to do with my time than get caught up in it all.

Teresa75 on May 10, 2008 at 4:23 pm
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meddie, I don’t know what actually happened, and neither does anyone else, apparently, because no one seems to be able to agree on anything. What I DO know is that Naomi Judd KNEW she was spreading gossip, and that’s what I find destestable. It doesn’t bother me that anyone reported it. It just bothers me that Naomi made sure that people DID report it. It was an attention-grabbing device—especially that biting-the-finger gesture—so if she got negative attention for it, then she has no one to blame but herself.

Miss Scarlett on May 10, 2008 at 4:32 pm
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Hey all ARCH-ANGELS AND ALL ARCHIE FANS: Im getting sad that this season is almost over i will miss watching Archie perform and watching him sing, he is such a joy to watch every week and we owe a lot to david for what he has done for us. WITH that being said US ARCHIE FANS need need need to vote vote vote for him more than we have ever voted for him before because he needs all the votes he can get. The media and IDOL are trying to ruin his chances of winning idol this year and we need to make sure that DAVIDS dream comes true for him and that is to win Idol. HE wants to win really bad now and the only way he will win is if us fans stick together and vote as many times as we can for him the entire 2 hours this week. THIS IS THE MOST CRUCIAL TIME FOR ARCHIE this will determine if he makes it to the finale so us archie fans need to stick together and vote more and more and more than ever and get everyone you know to vote for him also. DO NOT LET DAVID DOWN HE HAS NOT LET US DOWN!!! SO us archie fans and our ARCH-ANGELS NEED to vote the whole time and get everyone else we know to vote for him.PLZ do not assume he is safe we need to make this boys dreams come true. REMEMBER what he has done for us the last 5 months people and how much he has brightened our lives and made our dreams come true and also how he changed our lives in the last 5 months and that may give you some encouragement to vote our hearts our for him. WE NEED to vote our hearts our for him because he puts HIS HEART in every performance that he does for us SO WE NEED TO VOTE THE ENTIRE TIME AND VOTE MORE THAN WE HAVE EVER VOTED BEFORE WE CAN DO THIS ARCHIES SO LETS MAKE OUR VOTES COUNT!!!!

Dominic4Archuleta on May 10, 2008 at 4:52 pm
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Nothing with this show happens by accident so I think the producers wanted this story out there. I could come up with all kinds of reasons but the top two would be to rally Archuleta fans or to try and drive ratings up.

Natalia on May 10, 2008 at 5:03 pm
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I agree that nothing happens by accident. My take is that they want David out for a Cook win. There’s probably something there with his Dad, but with David’s friends and Simon’s words it must not be too bad. The timing is key.

I have had it with Cook and Castro fans “holier than thou” attitude toward David and his fans. They have their bad fans too. I could tell you a thing or 2. There are Cook and Castro fans laughing and having a great time at the so called fall of David A and hoping that he never sings again. I’m sick of their calling him handicapped and abused. But I know it is only a portion of their fanbase and I wouldn’t not like Cook because of them. What does it say about you Cook fans to take out what a few say on some 17 yr old kid.

If you think TPTB manipulated Jason and/or any of the others, then it’s possible they are here. Gee, I don’t think David A nor his family are perfect. How boring. Nobody is. I think David A’s been thrown under the bus like many of the contestants. They are all talented. There is nothing wrong with me thinking his singing of LMT was the most beautiful thing I have every heard. Can you have no sympathy at all for he must be going through. Is it “cool” to be so cold?

meg on May 10, 2008 at 5:37 pm
402

OH SNAP! Over 400 posts. Who woulda thunk it?! YEAH….all I have to say is…TOLD YA SO.

shadow25 on May 10, 2008 at 5:37 pm
403

“Nothing happens by accident”. Paula Abdul begs to differ. It all surely seems planned sometimes but it is still a reality show so it would not be reasonable for a producer to have a wide ranging conspiracy going on – information invariably leaks.

Hekerui on May 10, 2008 at 5:47 pm
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LOOK WHAT I FOUND ON THE IDOL FORUMS

LOS ANGELES According to American Idol spokesperson Andrea Jamison, the rumor about Jeff Archuleta, Idol contestant David Archuleta’s father, being banned from backstage and rehearsals is false.
“The rumor that surfaced yesterday on an entertainment Web site about Mr. Archuleta are categorically false,” said Ms. Jamison. “As part of normal procedures at American Idol, all family members of contestants and personal coaches are prohibited from participating in rehearsals during the final two weeks of the competition and the finale.”
According to online Web site TMZ, Jeff Archuleta was told this week by producers that he can no longer join his 17-year-old son David as he prepares for the show. The person was allegedly not authorized to comment publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity.
However, Ms. Jamison stated that this was mischaracterized. “The ‘ban’, if you will, applies to all family members and others not directly affiliated with the show and 19 Entertainment. This did not single out Mr. Archuleta nor do producers have any problems with his conduct whatsoever.”

AmethystX on May 10, 2008 at 5:58 pm
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If a story as big as this wasn’t leaked on purpose than they are probably polygraphing Idol employees to find the culprit right now as I type this.

I don’t think the story hurts Archuleta at all though. It rallies his fans and makes people feel sorry for him. And of the three remaining finalists, I think he’s the surest bet for the finals.

Natalia on May 10, 2008 at 6:11 pm
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I didn’t read the entire thread, but is anyone talking about WHY DAVID SUNG THOSE LYRICS in the song “Stand By Me”, when he added ‘beautiful girl’??? Yeah, his dad told him to, but David is old enough to know better than to go against what the AI producers said. You can’t just add lyrics wherever you want, that’s not fair! I actually can’t believe David sung those lyrics and went against what was right, just to please Papa Arch. I would be fuming at the dad AND David for causing all this trouble. Do they think they are above the rules!???????

sweetangel1051 on May 10, 2008 at 6:20 pm
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AmethystX: Please give us a link so we can see the press release ourselves. I am citing the AP report not TMZ. Thanks.

Rickey on May 10, 2008 at 6:40 pm
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I will believe this story if somebody tell me who said it? Gimme name! I don’t read TMZ crap news, all negatives all crap! Gimme name, and if it’s true, than it’s true. Won’t change anything. I’ll always love David, support David and I am a true fans. Bad or good, David is always my idol. I love him dearly. DAFTW!

AyuKendra on May 10, 2008 at 6:41 pm
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sweetangel1051–
I agree and posted something similar on post #299 but no one except you has mentioned it since.

lostiegirl on May 10, 2008 at 7:25 pm
410

Simon says David’s father is not a problem and Jason Castro says he’s a nice guy. What a surprise. Mr Archuleta deserves apologies from many many people. People should not jump to conclusions unless they observe something “firsthand.”

thom on May 10, 2008 at 8:23 pm
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I went to sign in on yahoo e-mail today and there big as mud was the headline about Archuleta’s Dad. It’s is true.
Also, I think Paula knew what David A. is going through and was giving him a helpful talk when she said you don’t seem so happy and you need to show your joy. Now we all know what the heck she was talking about!

candle602 on May 10, 2008 at 8:49 pm
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Simon is trying to cover up and doesn’t want trouble. You all are so nieve… duh

candle602 on May 10, 2008 at 8:50 pm
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I can see why DadChuleta was nice to Jason. He didn’t see Jason as a threat. Cookie IS a threat ready to win it all.

bubba313 on May 10, 2008 at 9:37 pm
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Cookie for the win!
But Jason just wasn’t talking because he knew better! Love Jason too…
Go Cookie!!

candle602 on May 10, 2008 at 10:04 pm
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lostiegirl -

lol, I’m not surprised people do not want to talk about it. But I for one think it was totally wrong of David to sing those lyrics that weren’t cleared. He doesn’t seem like a “rule-breaker” type of kid though.

sweetangel1051 on May 10, 2008 at 10:14 pm
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David’s father is an idiot..and David has a lousy sounding voice.

If you can’t deal it with.. I don’t care!

Manny on May 10, 2008 at 11:16 pm
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I don’t trust the media. They need to report negative news so it can be sold! Just wait and see! Don’t accuse other person before he has the chance to defend himself.
If I were David A’s dad, I would do anything that is helpful to my son.
David A seems very happy, humble, sincere and innocent. Thanks to his parental guidance!!!
I still vote for David A because I love him very much. (Forget Mr. Jeff Archuleta! Just love and remember about David A, who we truly love, not his Dad).

nploan on May 11, 2008 at 12:25 am
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In the fanblast chat today, richard clarified that there was a problem with adding the words but that no one knew it would be a problem until after the show. they also made clear that David’s Dad has not been banned from backstage or rehearsals.

I got this from the discussion on IDF in which many people cut and pasted the answers tothe questions on the fanblast chat into the thread. (the chat transcript itself doesn’t seem to be available anymore.)

Sounds like there was a bit of a ruckus that caught blown out of proportion and had some juicy fiction added to spice it up.

Suzanne on May 11, 2008 at 1:53 am
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You know, I read a little over half of these posts and I don’t understand something: Why are the people that believe this is/may be true being called trolls? In what I read, I didn’t see any name-calling or pot shots taken at DA, but I read at least half a dozen posts talking about ignoring trolls. I happen to believe that the Dad is a problem because I am trained to identify things like this. I was all but crucified on the Naomi Judd thread a few weeks ago for my opinion on the Dad only, and I don’t understand why some DA fans don’t understand that speculation over the Dad is a direct result of caring and concern for DA. I may enjoy another contestant a little more than DA, but that doesn’t preclude me from enjoying DA. Is it that difficult to think that there are a lot of people commenting because they feel empathy, concern, compassion, etc. for DA? He is a child, and very few people can hear about a likely or confirmed case of child abuse without wanting to offer some sort of love and support. Do those of you that keep shouting “troll” everytime someone thinks that JA may be the stage dad from hell realize that comments from those of us that aren’t Archie uber-fans are posted in support of Archie? Do you understand that we’re not trying to tear him down, upset him or his mega-fans, create chaos, disrupt voting, prevent him from winning AI, etc.? Hearing about something like this is shocking to most people, and being far removed from the situation, the only thing that they feel they have the power to do is condemn egregious behavior. Posting about this by non-Angels is important to us because we feel like we are (or at least trying to feel like we are) showing solidarity with you, to show we care, and to show that we realize that in the grand scheme of things, there are other issues and problems out there that are more important than who wins AI.

uktwirl on May 11, 2008 at 2:16 am
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GP18 on May 11, 2008 at 3:44 am
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GP 18, I think what people are looking for is a comment coming from a source other than a fansite. I am not saying that the fansite link you posted above is not a credible source, but I think what needs to be cited is an unbiased source.

The article quoted in the main post refers to the Associated Press. The AP is one of the biggest news agencies in the world. Out of what could be called “the big 3″ of news agencies, it is the only one based in the United States. The other 2 are Reuters and Agence France Presse. (Xinhua, which is another big news agency is based in China). These news agencies basically write articles that are reprinted in other newspapers all over the world who don’t have the universal access to news stories as these agencies do. Thus, if you look at articles even in major dailies such as New York Times or Washington Post, you might see some articles that have either (AFP), (Reuters) or (AP) before the article itself, meaning that they got the story from the news agency cited.

If you can provide a link to the main source of the yet to be confirmed “official response” then I think Rickey, more than anyone else will be relieved because he is in fact, an Archuleta fan.

sleepyinsomniac on May 11, 2008 at 5:09 am
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Geez, the links on Fan Blast that GP gave are “character” references to refute that there was a ban.

C’mon guys! It doesn’t even CATEGORICALLY STATE that Jeff Archuleta was not banned from rehearsals. They are character references. What kind of twisted thinking is this? Geez.

Fan Blast people: Just say that Jeff wasn’t banned and get it over and done with. No more beating around the bush like this that “we are victims.” Too much drama for something as simple as coming out with a statement that TMZ and the Associated Press are LYING about Jeff Archuleta being banned. It’s so easy.

Every friggin’ news outlet came out with this story already. And all they have to show for are CHARACTER REFERENCES?

Some of you guys really owe me.

Rickey on May 11, 2008 at 5:56 am
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Lest I be labeled a troll, I’ve decided to post here again in the hopes of adding just a little more value to the conversation.

1.) I personally don’t think that the veracity of these news articles can be called into question by what I’ve posted previously at #421. But if people would tend to believe fansites more than news agencies then that is their business. As stated earlier, the best denial for this is something official coming from AI which is CONFIRMED by a LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCE. Unless people can actually come up with a source for the oft quoted “AI Official Response”, then I believe that RICKEY’S STANCE ON DESERVING AN APOLOGY IS LEGITIMATE.

2.) What the TMZ and AP articles have hit on more than anything else is the fact that Jeff Archuleta is an OVERBEARING STAGE FATHER Notice that they DID NOT MENTION anything about him being a BAD FATHER PER SE. So people should stop thinking that AI is out to get anyone, anyone’s family or anyone’s father. Personally, the if someone who shouldn’t be even in the room went against rules that were laid down and in the process cost me money, I will ban that person from being part of the process which he shouldn’t even be part of to begin with.

3.) People should appreciate this opportunity as one that could potentially allow DA to be more comfortable in his skin as an artist. Based on the EW article referring to song choices, his father seemed to be the one who was calling the shots on song arrangement. This is his chance to shine. And if his fans truly believe in him as an artist and believe in his talent, they should welcome this opportunity instead of blaming every other person.

That said, my personal note to you Rickey, don’t hold your breath for apologies. If people are in denial over this then it will take time before such apologies are issued. On the other hand, as far I see, there are a lot of ARCHIES WHO DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK (not to mention cookies and faneshas) so don’t lose heart. And also, do try to get some sleep. Why are you up at 5:56 am???

(apologies for the words in all caps. capitalization meant for emphasis only)

sleepyinsomniac on May 11, 2008 at 7:01 am
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on CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/11/archuleta.idol.ap/index.html

idoliseDJ on May 11, 2008 at 10:34 am
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Everything I have posted on here has been deleted and it was all in support of DA plus a voice of reason. I have asked why you are deleting in separate email to the moderator with no response. More objectionable and emotional posts have stayed the course.

Right now, I find this a frenzy that is yet to be substantiated by AI. So let’s calm down. The news media around the nation picked up the AP article and carried it–a few laced it with TMZ sensationalism-intended comments. Nowhere in the AP article does it talk about JA harassing other contestants nor the producers, etc.

That is TMZ reporting and TMZ is a tabloid noted from sensationalism. Which means they mix fact with fantasy to sell news.

Lets wait for AI official comment before we jump off the deep end.

Kking on May 11, 2008 at 10:54 am
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Everything I have posted on here has been deleted and it was all in support of DA plus a voice of reason. I have asked why you are deleting in separate email to the moderator with no response. More objectionable and emotional posts have stayed the course.

Right now, I find this a frenzy that is yet to be substantiated by AI. So let’s calm down. The news media around the nation picked up the AP article and carried it–a few laced it with TMZ sensationalism-intended comments. Nowhere in the AP article does it talk about JA harassing other contestants nor the producers, etc.

That is TMZ reporting and TMZ is a tabloid noted from sensationalism. Which means they mix fact with fantasy to sell news.

Lets wait for AI official comment before we jump off the deep end.

Kking on May 11, 2008 at 10:54 am
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Kking? You’d believe AI over AP? AI are calculated liars trying to put on a popular television show – with a script I might add. (Paulagate is the good example.) They pimp who they want to win, put out crap about those they don’t want to win. TMZ is in their pocket with all their song spoilers and rumors that they’ve posted. Nigel probably writes them a nice little check every season.

AP is a well respected news agency. Not some Perez/TMZ/crap site.

Oh yes, “Moderators” here at Rickeys? Rickey is *the* moderator. This isn’t TWOP or IDF… sheesh.

Rickey — I’ve been around your blog for years, and haven’t always agreed with your favorites, but I feel badly for what some of these folks have put you through. This is your blog, a part of you, and that they have made you feel badly for what you’ve posted at your own site is just wrong. Sorry the crazied got to you.

wfowfo on May 11, 2008 at 11:10 am
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Note: I am not bashing DA. but rather trying to figure out what is driving his fans to such hysteria.
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Could much of the hysteria over this article be that many of DA’s fans are terrified that if DA doesn’t have his father back stage “consulting” with him and if David really has to do it all himself he just might fall short of their expectations and not be the boy wonder they have been proclaiming him to be?

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It is a terrible feeling when your favorite is voted off this show (or not voted for enough to stay) every fan group goes through it. It doesn’t hurt any less for us (non DA fans) than it does for you when your fav is in danger. I think that some fans should be reminded of that.

Sweet Melissa on May 11, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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HEy all Happy Mothers day to all you mothers out there!!! Im getting a little sad because idol is only on for 2 more weeks, that means no more archie every week lol i feel like im watching my younger brother up there. Im 24 yrs old and a guy and this kid has touched me in soooo many ways, he is just incredible and a true inspiration and touching to all of his fans and all of america and the world. ARCH-ANGELS and ARCHIES PLZ BE ready to go tuesday with your phones charged and your fingers ready to dial and text lol he needs all our votes more and more every time. VOTE the entire 2 hours this week and get everyone you know to vote for Archie he needs our help to stay in the competition and needs us to vote more than we have in the past so LETS STEP IT up ARCHIES and get DAVID IN THE FINALE AND TEHN GIVE HIM THE TITLE OF AMERICAN IDOL IN WHICH HE DESERVES SOO MUCH!!!! So lets get ready to be blown away tuesday and be ready to vote. DAVID WE YOUR fans love ya and we are behind you every day to make sure your dream comes true because you have made our dream come true time and time again, DAVID YOU ARE THE BOMB!!! (my girlfriend has a little crush on him lol) but i didnt say that she would be mad if she knew i said something lol

Dominic4Archuleta on May 11, 2008 at 2:00 pm
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wfowfo – AP is a reliable reporting agency that verifies its news. That was one of my posts that was deleted. It doesn’t address anything regarding harassing producers, other contestants, bad stage parent, etc. Anyone can go to the AP website and read the article that has been carried in many news mediums.

It will be interesting to see how AI handles. That will tell much, won’t it.

TMZ is a tabloid and mixes fact with fantasy. That is why it is called TMZ – Thirty Mile Zone -and reports on Hollywood “news” items. And it is the reporting in TMZ that has whipped up the fan base and the forums & bloggers.

There isn’t any substantiation of the Naomi Judd story and everyone needs to check news resources to verify.

All I am saying is let’s cool our jets and see how tomorrow’s news spins out. AI will have to comment.

DA FTW – Vote, Vote, Vote

Kking on May 11, 2008 at 3:02 pm
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Kking,

I think what some people are basing the other statements that did not ouright appear on the AP article is the line in the AP article that says

“Jeff Archuleta’s intense backstage involvement had become a source of concern for the series, the person connected with “American Idol” said — but it was a lyric change on Tuesday’s show that pushed producers to act.”

By that statement, it would appear that the lyric change was just the straw the broke the camel’s back. Additionally, the EW article chronicling how the Top 5 chose their songs give insight to the meddling being referred to.

Once more, there was no mention of Jeff Archuleta being a bad parent per se. The point that they are making is that he is an overbearing stage dad.

And really, if you think about it, the fact that the “beautiful girls” line was inserted into the performance is proof enough of this. Not only was this going to cause problems in terms of AI having to pay royalties, this was outright copyright infringement (which carries with it fines also) because there was no prior permission to use the song in a tv show that is nationally broadcast and is sold to cable networks worldwide. There was no way that TPTB would have allowed DA to use the line so the fact that it was inserted in there had to have been the dad’s doing behind the backs of TPTB.

PS. The one who actually wins in all this is really Sean Kingston.

sleepyinsomniac on May 11, 2008 at 3:23 pm
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The story about David’s dad is on CNN…that sucks, I was hoping TMZ was wrong. Poor David

wyocat on May 11, 2008 at 3:29 pm
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Sorry….I should read the whole thread before posting!!

wyocat on May 11, 2008 at 3:31 pm
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sleepyinsomniac–again, if stage parent from hell was what AP found, they would have stated. Intense involvement doesn’t mean abusive parenting.

wyocat – CNN is carrying the AP story – you are mixing the TMZ BS w/AP reporting.

There are levels of truth here and everyone seems to be jumping to the worst possible conclusion.

AP – has to have 2 sources to publish; other news services like CNN, newspapers, E-zines, etc. pick up and either publish the AP as it or publlsh and add their comments.

TMZ – facts & fiction for tabloid and sensationalism – ask any Hollywood star

AI – has to assure that it does not influence voting for viewer #’s; so let’s see what they say about this as it was leaked from their employees to AP x 2

Kking on May 11, 2008 at 3:50 pm
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Kling, why do you insist that “Stage Parent from Hell” equates abuse?? I don’t and I don’t think many others do. It does equate “Intense involvement” though

Sweet Melissa on May 11, 2008 at 4:03 pm
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kking,

im actually in agreement with what you’re saying about the non-presence of any sort of information much less confirmation of abusive parenting. as i stated in my previous post, nowhere does it appear in the articles that Jeff Archuleta is a bad father per se. all other statements to the contrary are at this point nothing more than speculation.

in any case, i think it can’t be denied that he is in fact a stage father. how badly he meddles in his son’s career is a matter of fact which the AP article does not directly address. what i’m saying and i’m not totally agreeing that legitimate news outlets should be doing it, is that the other additional statements that you are referring to are conjecture based on the AP statement i quoted. based on that statemenent it would appear that this is not the only instance of meddling, but just the latest and serious enough that they are actually taking steps to disallow him from being present backstage any longer.

sleepyinsomniac on May 11, 2008 at 4:13 pm
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Sweet Melissa – you are a pro – are you on TMZ payroll?

Kking on May 11, 2008 at 4:23 pm
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Using the term ‘intense’ when describing things such as involvement, hatred, etc. indicates an abnormality. Abnormal is primarily used to describe something that is not good (i.e. abnormal lesions, abnormal growth, abnormal tendencies, abnormal fixation, etc.) or is otherwise unhealthy. Thus, intense involvement is the same as saying abnormal involvement, which is the same as saying unhealthy involvement. Healthy involvement would be functioning in a supportive or encouraging way, while unhealthy involvement indicates harm is being done in some way, shape or form (i.e. verbally, emotionally, psychologically, physically, etc.) From a professional medical standpoint, any of these kinds of harm (whether they are intentionally delivered or not) is considered abusive.

Twenty or thirty years ago, being a stage parent from hell would not have been considered abusive. As we become more enlightened and learn more about child development, we know that such behavior does tremendous damage to the psyche and will almost certainly lead to disfunction in a multitude of areas.

Many will say that stage-parenting is not abusive behavior because they grew up with overbearing parents but turned out fine, so it can’t be that bad or shouldn’t be considered abusive. Research shows, though, that people that grow up like this may think they are fine and appear to others to be emotionally healthy. Closer inspection, though, almost always reveals some type of disfunction present that manifests itself in a variety of ways such as multiple failed marriages, sexually deviant tendencies, inability to maintain a stable job, control issues, drug or alcohol addiction, etc. I’m not saying that DA will exhibit any of these traits when he gets older, I’m just saying that being a stage parent from hell is abusive behavior, and there are always consequences as a result.

uktwirl on May 11, 2008 at 4:51 pm
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I am going to repeat what Suzanne said earlier, because it is concise, cogent and worth repeating:

“This issue is about copyright infringement, not a parenting.”

Anything that comes out in the press about Jeff Archuleta is pure speculation. For every Naomi Judd, there’s going to be a member of their church congregation or a high school choir teacher who can come to his defense with an anecdotal “character reference.” It’s a circular argument.

What we have to remember is that most of us have never been backstage at an AI rehearsal or performance. As much as you would like to say that DA’s voice has resonated with your personal experiences or how his eyes have touched your soul, let’s be honest… you don’t know the kid or his family. You’ve never met them. You may spend a few hours a week watching them on the media circuit and reading little snippets about his life, but you don’t really know them. I’m not going to make any speculation about his personal life, because I have no idea.

I am basing my objective opinion off the facts. The fact is, he flagrantly aped the lines from a song he did not have permission to sing. We have the incontrovertible video documentation to prove it. That’s the issue at hand– everything else is just spotty speculation at best.

To reiterate some of the last few posts, the Associated Press is one of the most renowned and trusted news sources in the world. It is up there with Reuters. Ergo, AP > TMZ.

DJ Ryce on May 11, 2008 at 6:23 pm
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#439 – ITA. No matter what we think about David or his dad as people – the fact is, they broke a rule and AI punished them for it. David’s probably lucky that all the punishment fell on his dad instead of him.

Everything else about him being a stage dad and harassing the other contestants is speculation, but I gotta say, there’s a whole lotta smoke around for there not to be a fire.

michelle on May 11, 2008 at 8:30 pm
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Since when is is up to the contestants or their families to get clearance on a song. Is that not the job of the producers or TBTB at AI?
IMO AI made the mistake and are having to pay for it. I don’t believe for one second that this should be blamed completely on Jeff Archuleta. It’s really pathetic to see so many jumping on the JA haters bandwagon.

zoey321 on May 11, 2008 at 10:26 pm
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#437:Sweet Melissa – you are a pro – are you on TMZ payroll?

Kking on May 11, 2008 at 4:23
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Spoken like a true rabid Archuleta fan! Thanks for showing your true self.

Sweet Melissa on May 11, 2008 at 10:58 pm
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@441,

I think you’re misconstruing the story. It was never stated that it was up to the contestants to get clearance for the songs they sing in AI. That would be the height of absurdity.

What was said was that JA insisted on inserting the sampling from beautiful girls which caused the entire brouhaha in the first place.

The AI people would certainly not want their name associated with copyright infringement as they’ve already had problems getting companies to even allow them to use some songs before so it makes sense that they did not know that the sampling was going to be used. As a result, they have laid down the law and are now disallowing JA from being backstage.

Yes, many people are expressing disappointment/distrust/dismay about the entire situation. Not all of these people, including me, are saying that he is a bad father. I think it has been made clear several times that what is being referred to are his actions as a stage father.

To be blinded by admiration is one thing, to refuse to acknowledge truth even when it is right in front of your face is another.

If these facts are true, I am sorry for DA. But I see this as an opportunity for growth for him. It would allow him to mature more and be able to be more in control artistically. In the end, what DA fans keep saying is that they like DA and not JA. So why not welcome the opportunity to have a performance that is ALL DA without any influence of JA? Personally, I believe the guy is talented, so I’m not nervous for him. I think he’ll do well… probably even better than he’s done before.

sleepyinsomniac on May 12, 2008 at 12:29 am
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**To be blinded by admiration is one thing, to refuse to acknowledge truth even when it is right in front of your face is another.**

Excellent sleepyinsomniac!

Off to bed for me, hoping you find some sleep tonight!

Sweet Melissa on May 12, 2008 at 12:57 am
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Truth you say? And what exactly IS the truth? Does anyone here REALLY know? I have to say, I like Marvin Gaye’s take on the subject in “I heard it Through the Grapevine”:

(Sing along with me now. . .)

“People say believe half of what you see,
Son, and none of what you hear
But I can’t help bein’ confused
If it’s true please tell me dear”

I’m withholding judgement until AI speaks. Even then, I’m withholding judgement. The last I heard, that was God’s department.

Miss Scarlett on May 12, 2008 at 2:35 am
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Miss Scarlett,

Excellent point. My previous statement referring to “truth” was not properly contextualized. My bad. I should have referred to sound evidence or credible evidence. I guess I was just shocked at the acerbity by which the AP article was met along with the preference of people of fansites over news media. But then again, that also says something about the credibility of news media or the fact that we’ve been so used to CNN, Fox and just big named newspapers like Times and the Post that the AP was doubted as a legitimate media source. But that’s another discussion altogether.

In any case, you are absolutely correct in that nobody here really knows the truth about anything other than the actual people involved.

sleepyinsomniac on May 12, 2008 at 2:59 am
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#445I’m withholding judgement until AI speaks. Even then, I’m withholding judgement. The last I heard, that was God’s department.

For goodness sake……………

Sweet Melissa on May 12, 2008 at 9:04 am
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Hi, all ~ I’ve been away from Rickey, and I’m not likely to catch-up on 400+ posts this morning, but I wanted to say how sad I feel for DA after reading this story. Not only would it be tough to have a parent that might be too hard on you, the drama of having your parent banned from rehearsals would have to be difficult as well. Although I am a die-hard word-nerd, I do sympathize for DA and hope he gets through this no-win situation o.k.

Daisy on May 12, 2008 at 9:09 am
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I know all you DA fans are upset over his dad. I understand he has overstepped himself, and DA even sang lyrics suggested by his dad and AI ended up having to pay extra $$ for it. I still think that his dad isn’t all that bad. Come on, it’s his son, he’s proud of him. I agree with his being banned, but I don’t think he is a bad person because he got caught up in all of this. Look at all of DA’s fans, how caught up they are. So he’s got a proud father, who can get too involved. This will not affect the competition at all IMO. I still think DC will win, though (DC drives me crazy, and I would marry him if he asked). Squirrelly–out!

Squirrelly on May 12, 2008 at 9:53 am
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Clearly Mr. Archuleta chose not to heed Naomi Judd’s prophectic advice!!!

Jonathan67 on May 12, 2008 at 9:56 am
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Oops!!! I meant: Clearly Mr. Archuleta chose not to heed Naomi Judd’s prophetic advice. Sorry, Rickey I hate to make typos!!!

Jonathan67 on May 12, 2008 at 10:01 am